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    Wife wants one of those Fancy Washer Dryers, She sort of hinted at my New Shop 4 new bikes and a 4 wheeler I bought this year along with all kinds of shop equipment. She hasnt seen my New Boring machine yet or the sand blaster But to make it short, i wondered if those LG front load washer dryers are good? Do any of you guys have these units? Is it better to get a electric high efficiency dryer ? or a gas one? I hear the new front load washers can hiold 32 pair of jeans and when they come out are almost dry wow. ?? I dont do much laundry anyhow but figure if i get her these new Appliances i can buy my new 4 cylinder yamaha snowmobile?? V Max 800 (New for me is actually old junk guys )

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    They are very good. The front load washer uses far less water which means the front load dryer tosses less of that into my shop.

    When the little Mrs mentioned she wanted a new set I took her down to the store and bought them that day. Our bills have gone down and my tools don't rust near so bad!

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    • #3
      I'm told the best washer is a Staber, both for wash quality and energy/water efficiency.

      It's a horizontal drum top loader.

      http://www.staber.com/
      Paul Compton
      www.morini-mania.co.uk
      http://www.youtube.com/user/EVguru

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      • #4
        Yes - but!!

        Sure, the front-loaders are more efficient by almost any measure.

        But ask anyone who has back, knee or hip problems how they get on with the front-loaders.

        How many here can confidently say that those "problems" won't apply to them or their wives over the useful life of those front-loaders?

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        • #5
          We have the LG washer and dryer front loaders in a stacked configuration and are very satisified. They do a great job and the washer does not use nearly as much water as our old unit. As has been said the clothes come from the washer almost dry. They are made so the doors can be switched to open from either side easily. One caution with any front loading washers; water can lay in the front gasket and cause fungus or other bad things to grow there and smell. I made a magnet and abs plastic hook setup to leave the door open an inch or two so this area can dry out.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ridgerunner
            ... One caution with any front loading washers; water can lay in the front gasket and cause fungus or other bad things to grow there and smell. I made a magnet and abs plastic hook setup to leave the door open an inch or two so this area can dry out.
            Bears repeating. We have a Maytag Neptune. My wife also carefully cleans the soap hopper after every use and props open the door for the soap hopper between uses.
            Weston Bye - Author, The Mechatronist column, Digital Machinist magazine
            ~Practitioner of the Electromechanical Arts~

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            • #7
              Originally posted by oldtiffie
              Sure, the front-loaders are more efficient by almost any measure.

              But ask anyone who has back, knee or hip problems how they get on with the front-loaders.

              How many here can confidently say that those "problems" won't apply to them or their wives over the useful life of those front-loaders?
              That's true in our house, so I made a pedestal to raise the door up to a human height, with drawers. I saw a commercial version in white enamel recently in some flyer. Makes a good place to store all those "products" that multiply on the laundry room bench top.

              Greg

              (We now have an LG top loader for other reasons, and can report good service for the two years we've owned it.)

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              • #8
                My grandparents have an intresting top loading washer... It spins the cloths up to I sware sounds like at least 1000rpm, sounds like a jet engine taking off!.. Has a locking top lid to prevent user injury.
                Apparently its some ultra efficent one..

                Woah, a shelf under the dryer.. that would be intresting...
                ATM my dryer is used to hold my surface plate... Heh....
                Play Brutal Nature, Black Moons free to play highly realistic voxel sandbox game.

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                • #9
                  We have a TOP LOADING LG washer, and my wife thinks that it is just great. It is only about 24" square, but since it has no agitator, it will hold a queen-size down duvet with no difficulty. It also spins at a much higher speed and thus the clothes dry quicker. Duffy
                  Duffy, Gatineau, Quebec

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                  • #10
                    we go GE set here they are 7 years old now and at the time the most energy efficent and still are for some reason, also if you want more energy savings switch everything in the house and the to thoes flourescent bulbs 13watt _ 60 ones GE or sylivna bith work just as well ,

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                    • #11
                      well you can make them efficient

                      first of all .i wouldn't buy a washer dryer ........as they are too complicated and break down ..and bang go your savings .

                      buy separate washer and dryer ..

                      make sure that the washer you buy has good progs in it ..........as most these days .........only put hot water in ...on the boil wash program ...cold for all others !!!

                      others put hot and cold in at the same time and heat it ..

                      smart ones ..........put hot water in ...........and put cold or hot in ..in small quantities that the require the heating element in the washing machines to do the minimum of work ..and reduce the overall washing cycle time.

                      the hard bit is finding out which these machines are .

                      the dryer ...........buy a condensing dryer .........and only dry clothes when the excess heat given off will heat your house and save on the main heating of the house.

                      all the best.markj

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                      • #12
                        I just bought the LG set after much trauma. I simply don't trust this crap, and wouldn't touch a USA make again. I've heard the Stabers are only assembled here from import parts. So far so good, and it's got no vibration problems on the 2nd floor of a 100 year old brick building with wood joist and floors. However I did install a mud shower pan under it which I'm sure helps.

                        My Frigidaire front loader died a ridiculous death from poor design. These guys sell expensive machines that they take no responsibility for after 1 year. Most of these machines died within 5 years from either bad bearings or an aluminum spider casting in the drum that rotted from the wet alkali environment. See this video and commentary http://www.appliancejournal.com/appl...hers-fail-271/
                        Location: Jersey City NJ USA

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                        • #13
                          "...top loading washer... It spins the cloths up to I sware sounds like at least 1000rpm..."

                          That sounds like our Fisher-Paykel washer. We've had it and the matching dryer since 2004 with no problems to date.

                          Roger
                          Any products mentioned in my posts have been endorsed by their manufacturer.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by oldtiffie
                            Sure, the front-loaders are more efficient by almost any measure.

                            But ask anyone who has back, knee or hip problems how they get on with the front-loaders.

                            How many here can confidently say that those "problems" won't apply to them or their wives over the useful life of those front-loaders?
                            Agreed there's no single solution for all possible life needs. I have a really bad back as a result of breaking it in a motorcycle race and later in life rupturing a disk with two subsequent surgeries. The front loader is far better for me as I can lift and stand with hands full of not that wet-and-heavy laundry and push it at chest level into the dryer. With the top loader I had to bend/lift/swing and it was that swing part that hurt the most. That was eliminated with the front loader twins.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gellfex
                              I just bought the LG set after much trauma. I simply don't trust this crap, and wouldn't touch a USA make again. I've heard the Stabers are only assembled here from import parts. So far so good, and it's got no vibration problems on the 2nd floor of a 100 year old brick building with wood joist and floors. However I did install a mud shower pan under it which I'm sure helps.

                              My Frigidaire front loader died a ridiculous death from poor design. These guys sell expensive machines that they take no responsibility for after 1 year. Most of these machines died within 5 years from either bad bearings or an aluminum spider casting in the drum that rotted from the wet alkali environment. See this video and commentary http://www.appliancejournal.com/appl...hers-fail-271/
                              Looks like the Americans have cottoned on to the European idea ..that washing machines are now only built for a 5-7 year life span .

                              No matter how much you complain ..you will never get them to build them to old designs that last, ever again.

                              You will find that different manufacturers all follow the basic same design now ..and the high end washers will have the same basic internals as the low end washers........the difference in the high end ones will just be spin speeds and electronics.

                              Washing machines are now a chuck away product ..
                              our basic washers cost about £200 £300.... $317 -$475

                              Even our fridges and freezers now follow the same design principles ..now almost all fridge-freezers all have the same motor compressor........weather it be high end Bosch or low end becco.........7 years and they are toast.

                              You're just going to have to get used to it .and shop around ..only buy in the sales ....and expect them only to last a max of 7 years and min of 4 years.

                              sorry to load you with bad news ..

                              all the best.markj

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