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  • #16
    Somebody at the dam got a raise.

    And I'll bet it wasn't one of the "mooks"...but a stupidvisor instead.
    No good deed goes unpunished.

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    • #17
      Far too much we had a massive increase recently my bills rose by about 40% or more.The electric companies just ripping us off.
      Please excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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      • #18
        Right now our electricity is about 5.9 cents US per kilowatt hour, we are on Kentucky Utilities.

        Louisville Gas and Electric in Louisville Ky sold the company to Eon of Germany. Can you believe that, they sold the golden goose to the Germans. Now the Germans have the Goose and the Louisville residents get goosed every month.
        It's only ink and paper

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Carld
          Right now our electricity is about 5.9 cents US per kilowatt hour, we are on Kentucky Utilities.

          Louisville Gas and Electric in Louisville Ky sold the company to Eon of Germany. Can you believe that, they sold the golden goose to the Germans. Now the Germans have the Goose and the Louisville residents get goosed every month.
          5.9 cents you must be living in luxury with all the spare cash you must have .......thats 1/4 of what we are paying...and probably the price we were paying 20 years ago.

          all the best.and happy new year .

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          • #20
            I pay just short of .14¢ pkh

            The killer, there is a 40x multiplier for business, so if I actually use, for example 50kh I would have to pay for 2000kh.
            I keep a close eye on waste and it really helps keep the kh down but I do not understand the why of the 40x, oh, and the rate per kh is .02¢ higher as well.

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            • #21
              When I built our new home and shop here I got to be friends with the lineman/troubleshooter and I told him I have 3 ph machines and I wondered about getting a 3 ph line. He said it might be possible but there are higher rates for 3 ph and other fees. He said to keep on using the RPC it will be much cheaper.

              So I did and it is.
              It's only ink and paper

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              • #22
                Boy I am glad I steal my power from the neighbor.
                Andy

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                • #23
                  Not trying to gloat, just showing how the profits I mentioned in my above post add up. It seemed appropriate after some of the other people here listed their power rates. Below is the rate schedule for a residential customer in Chelan County Washington (commercial services are very similar):

                  First 1,000 kWh – 2.29 cents
                  1001 to 2000 kWh – 2.84 cents
                  Over 2000 kWh – 2.99 cents
                  Basic charge – $7.20


                  The rates listed are per KWH. The basic charge is a 'meter read charge' which is a fixed monthly charge for having the power available.

                  As you can see for every KWH the local customers "SAVE" (read: make available to sell to other utilities) the higher the profit for the PUD. For example, I save 1000 KWH and reduce my bill by $29.90. Then our PUD sells that 1000 KWH to our machinist friends utility in California for $.08/KWH who then sell it to the customer for $.10 or more per KWH. This is a net profit for my PUD of about $50.00 or just shy of 167%, not bad. Our friends utility in California will make 25% so they are happy and our friend just sees the same rate so no surprises for him.

                  Obviously there are other costs involved so the numbers are not really accurate but the idea is absolutely spot on.

                  Rant OFF

                  Robin
                  Robin

                  Happily working on my second million Gave up on the first

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                  • #24
                    The only way to beat the energy cost crunch is to conserve. Our bill is currently about $100 per month and less in summer and that includes electric hot water, clothes dryer and deep well pump as well as my shop use. I have only CFL and tube lighting and am starting to switch to LED.

                    This is my 15 watt LED back porch light. It replaced a 100 watt incandescent since CFL bulbs don't work in the cold. Outdoor security lighting is a natural for the new high power LEDs. I will be replacing my 300 watt floods with 30 watt LEDs in the near future using the same housings. The porch light cost about $20 to put together using an existing el cheapo work light housing which was $5. Pay off is around one year compared to the 100 watt running 10 hrs per day but the LEDs should last 10 to 20 years in this service.

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                    • #25
                      We get hit from 15 to 17 cents per KWH. Try to conserve, our bills keep going up. Used 20% to 40% less electric for Sept, Oct, Nov due to our daughter going to college and me running the house very efficiently, my bill hung around $85 to $93.00 regardless.

                      The kick in the pants are the administrative fees and service fees. My bill could NEVER go below $85.00 per month just due to base fees, even if I shut things off at the main.
                      CCBW, MAH

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                      • #26
                        well im going to have a try with these
                        seem the cheapest way of going about it ..
                        cheap chinese torch.......price £1
                        if i can find any more .at that price .

                        uses 1 amp at 3.75 volts
                        the amount of light it makes is incredable
                        several (15)dotted about the place powerd by a nice power supply should do the job







                        all the best.markj

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by spope14
                          We get hit from 15 to 17 cents per KWH. Try to conserve, our bills keep going up. Used 20% to 40% less electric for Sept, Oct, Nov due to our daughter going to college and me running the house very efficiently, my bill hung around $85 to $93.00 regardless.

                          The kick in the pants are the administrative fees and service fees. My bill could NEVER go below $85.00 per month just due to base fees, even if I shut things off at the main.
                          that's more like it

                          how come such a massive difference across the usa ..

                          in the uk if you think one supplier is to expensive you can move to any other .

                          but makes only a couple of percent difference to us .but to you. would make a massive percent difference .

                          all the best.markj

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                          • #28
                            The difference depends on the power source. There are 4 main sources, hydro, coal, nuclear and natural gas. Hydroelectric power is by far the cheapest and nuclear or natural gas the most expensive.


                            If the US really wants to reduce carbon emissions they should close down Las Vegas. It burns an entire trainload of coal every single day.
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                            • #29
                              Amen to that evan. Las vegas is just a giant waste of money and energy on all sides. WTF is the point of a city wasteing billions of KWH on neon lights?
                              Built in the middle of nowhere with no natural resources, no fresh water and no productive industry.
                              AFAIK they recommend not even drinking the ground water there because A: thier water table has sunk and is sinking the town, and B: its not safe to drink after 20,000,000 people pissed god knows what medication into it.
                              <endrant>
                              Play Brutal Nature, Black Moons free to play highly realistic voxel sandbox game.

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                              • #30
                                Here in Connecticut, I am paying $.16 per KWH delivered, not counting the fixed charge for reading the meter, sending you a bill, TV commercials, etc. As they burn out I am replacing most of the incandesent bulbs with CFL's. I have about 400W of tubular flourescents in my shop.

                                I just signed up with one of the alternate power suppliers and that saved me $.02 per KWH (was paying $.18). If you look at the bill, over half of the total is transmission charges, taxes and other fees. At least 2 other alternate suppliers are advertising (heavily) that they can save you 20% on your electric bill. Based on my research, MAYBE they could save you that much on the power generation part of the bill but not the total. Guess they figure people are stupid......

                                Of course the idiot that represnets my district in the state legislature introduces a bill to do away with the alternate suppliers. "This will reduce your power bill" according to her. More idiots!

                                In a recent thread about CFL's, some one summed it up exactly... The best energy saving bulb is one that is OFF!

                                Craig

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