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  • My simple solution to burning waste oil for heat

    For the past couple months I've been heating my shop with my "redneck stove". I've used wmo(waste motor oil) to heat my shop for 10 years now. It's also my only source of heat. Although I started burning wood in this particular stove last year to supliment my Clean Burn stove which was a little to small for my 2400 sq.ft. leaky shop.

    I knew I wanted to convert this stove to wmo, but was debating on a design. Well I debated untill it was freezing outside and then just went with the quickest and easiest design my simple mind could come up with. I'm actually quite pleased with it. I know it's redneck and could stand for major improvements. I really would like to install some temp sensors and oil solenoid valves for safety reasons. This thing will get extremely hot if left unattended.

    I haven't even run the Clean Burn this season (it's now for sale). Anyway here's what I come up with, see what you think.





    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LyxOeVkvW8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpDpYhPKN70


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Z-lTuxVZg

  • #2
    For the benefit of rural members who lack broadband, any chance we could get an explanation and maybe a pic or two ?

    These days I use waste oil for chainsaw bar oil, and wish I had more of it.

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    • #3
      Sorry about that I will work on that. I always think of myself as being rural. But I do have hish speed out here in the middle of nowwhere. It just seems easier to me to post youtube than pics, how crazy is that?

      Rich

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      • #4
        Richard-
        Do you have insurance on your shop? Will they cover you with that furnace?

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        • #5
          I do have insurance, and if my shop burns down from this stove I'm screwed.. As I would be with a wood burner. So I have to be very careful. I can't imagine the money I've save burning oil, but there are also drawbacks to it. Just one of those things you have to weigh out. I was told that with the factory burner I wasn't even covered.

          Rich

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          • #6
            Super cool! Looks like that's a great way to keep your shop warm. BTW, cool shop!
            -Matt

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            • #7
              It's a beautiful thing!!

              How much oil do you go through in the course of a day?

              rollin'

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              • #8
                Damn Richard, that's a nice big shop you got there, looks warm and cozy too.
                Looks like you have a pretty good handle on the idiosyncrasies of the heater, safety issues an such, and the fact the you know you have to keep an eye on it. It's not for everyone, but then you did not build it for everyone.
                I'm sure once you get some of these issues worked out of your prototype model you have the potential for a very efficient and safe unit that won't need too much babysitting.
                Lots of low cost heat in waste oil if you have a source, and I'm sure you do or you wouldn't have taken this route. A lot of people in warmer climes don't realize how many BTUs it takes to heat a large shop.
                I like it!

                Just a thought as I have been toying with the same idea that you are working on and have always been afraid of the insurance issue. We all know how insurance companies will drop you like a hot potato if they can. The part that scares me is that even in the summer when that heater hasn't run for months, if they see it after a fire, you'll need to do a whole "lotta splainin".
                What I would like to do is divorce the heater completely from the shop.
                Have it isolated far enough from the shop so that it is not a direct threat to the shop or my insurance policy, and just fan force the heat through insulated ducts. What do ya think?
                Home, down in the valley behind the Red Angus
                Bad Decisions Make Good Stories

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                • #9
                  Yea, insurance; the biggest scam besides the oil business! if they see that, they will null your insurance. I pulled my woodstove from my garage shop. It was cheaper than the yearly new regulations the insurance people wanted me to abide by. My local insurance guy discreetly told me that in the event of a woodstove related fire, the insurer would "unlikely" pay out. I'm hopin, that with global warming, I can soon work in a pair of flip-flops...

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                  • #10
                    Ahh the joys of being in Florida...

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                    • #11
                      Hi Richard,
                      Nice job on the demo of the stove. Did you ever have that Clean Burn suddenly vaporize excess oil and create a sudden mini flash explosion? Back in the mid 80's we had one do that in a shop that I ran.
                      Bob
                      Pics of shop and some projects
                      http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y39...achine%20Shop/

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                      • #12
                        Absolutly fantastic! By the way, was that a Sea Foam painted press in the background? Were they out of Fuscia?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rollin45
                          It's a beautiful thing!!

                          How much oil do you go through in the course of a day?

                          rollin'

                          I'm burning around 20 gallons a day. I've been running it about 12 to 15 hours a day and leaving it off at night.

                          Rich

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                          • #14
                            What I would like to do is divorce the heater completely from the shop.
                            Have it isolated far enough from the shop so that it is not a direct threat to the shop or my insurance policy, and just fan force the heat through insulated ducts. What do ya think?[/QUOTE]

                            I've been dreaming that for years. What I really want is to heat water and heat the shop and house, and hot water heaters. I've been fighting to find a good burner that I don't have to constantly fight. Amazingly this simple design with a little tweaking will do that for me.

                            This next year I'm adding a 30 x 60 garage to the shop. I want to build a cement block room in the far corner to house my oil burner and heat the water.

                            Rich

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by deere_x475guy
                              Hi Richard,
                              Nice job on the demo of the stove. Did you ever have that Clean Burn suddenly vaporize excess oil and create a sudden mini flash explosion? Back in the mid 80's we had one do that in a shop that I ran.

                              Oh the agony of that Clean Burn, yes I've had it do that, but only when I had the safety switch bypassed (about the only way I could get it to burn the last several years). I have cleaned replaced suspect parts, even unsuspecting parts and still couldn't get that thing to work like it did the first two years I had it. It may be something simple, it is a machine after all, but I'm done with it.
                              It was really too small for the size of shop and my location.

                              Rich

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