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  • Who Sell Weiss Machine Tools In The USA?

    I'd like to take a look at this manual lathe. I'm on the west coast.

    http://www.weiss.com.cn/products/wm280vf.php

  • #2
    Reading between the lines in ...

    "We are one of the few companies who can offer inspections not only when the machine is finished but also during the manufacturing. Our trained inspectors will stay in the factories to make sure that our standards are meet and after years of cooperation with these factories we can rely on their support, as they know they also will finish up with a more marketable product when all the checks are carried out. The inspector's job is to follow the assembly of the machines through the different processes including painting and packing. All this can guarantee that the product will meets our specifications and quality standards before it is shipped to you."

    ... makes me laugh! But maybe, I do understand the word "can" in a wrong way. But then, that's because I'm German. What makes me even more doubt is, that they have chosen "Weiss" as their name. A German name! I'm pi**ed by their intentional abuse of German quality!

    On a different page, they talk about "their" factory. Quite a contradiction to the quote, eh!?


    Taken from http://www.weiss.com.cn/brief.htm


    Nick

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MuellerNick
      Reading between the lines in ...

      "We are one of the few companies who can offer inspections not only when the machine is finished but also during the manufacturing. Our trained inspectors will stay in the factories to make sure that our standards are meet and after years of cooperation with these factories we can rely on their support, as they know they also will finish up with a more marketable product when all the checks are carried out. The inspector's job is to follow the assembly of the machines through the different processes including painting and packing. All this can guarantee that the product will meets our specifications and quality standards before it is shipped to you."

      ... makes me laugh! But maybe, I do understand the word "can" in a wrong way. But then, that's because I'm German. What makes me even more doubt is, that they have chosen "Weiss" as their name. A German name! I'm pi**ed by their intentional abuse of German quality!

      On a different page, they talk about "their" factory. Quite a contradiction to the quote, eh!?


      Taken from http://www.weiss.com.cn/brief.htm


      Nick
      Looks like they have airsmith doing the write-ups for them

      all the best.markj

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MuellerNick
        What makes me even more doubt is, that they have chosen "Weiss" as their name. A German name! I'm pi**ed by their intentional abuse of German quality!
        you must really hate that big American beer company
        in Toronto Ontario - where are you?

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        • #5
          Precision Mathews sells those lathes in the USA

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          • #6
            We Brits are guilty as well
            our Greenalls brewery launched a lager called GRUNHALLE lager
            play on words.

            all the best.markj

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            • #7
              Sneaky

              Good post Nick.

              You are wide awake.

              I thought those machines looked familiar. They are NOT German-made - just another importer of Chinese-made machines.

              I have no problem with that if their QA is is good as it should be.

              All of my stuff is Chinese-made and it seems that my dealer has the QA/QC pretty well sorted out as 95%+ is very good. I don't know whether they actually have their own inspectors/assurers on site or whether they buy it from or through some one that does and gets it right. It really doesn't matter to me as I get it in good condition with a warranty that is honoured. I pay, and am quite willing to pay a premium for a better product with a good warranty.

              Its entirely up to me to make my own assessments as regards specifications and price. If the supplier meets them any deficiency is my fault - and I accept that too.

              Your comment regarding "can" is very valid as it leaves too many loop-holes, where-as "will", "must", "shall" are much stronger and definitive.

              It is all too easy to just "suggest" and have an "interested" customer "read-in" what he wants as an "informed party" when he may not be. Many people just simply cannot or will not admit to anyone - let alone themselves - that they do noty or may not "know". They are all too often "easy marks" (victims) of their own making.

              There is nothing wrong with a bit of disengenuity or "bending of the truth" etc. in advertising provided that no rules are broken and the supplier can reasonably say or assume that in the sphere of specialised "stuff" that the customer is capable of and has made an informed decision. The "fitness for purpose" is fair in the zone and role of the buyer in that case.

              There are a whole different set of "Consumer Protection" legislation etc. in regard to "domestic/retail" purchases (lots) than there are for commercial/industrial (considerably less > very few).

              I bought my German-made "Proxxon" die-grinder and milling head as well as my "Metabo" and "Bosch" drills and grinders as well as my USA-made "Bosch" mitre saw. All are top quality "industrial" grade tools that are not only very expensive but are very popular with shops that need "grunt", reliability, accuracy and have "next day" (most times) spares and warranty. I had much the same result when I had AEG stuff.

              I bought them because there was nothing better for my purposes.

              Most other times, good "Chinese" stuff will do all all that I want other than my 240A MIG welder and my 3/8" (1/2" at a stretch) plasma cutter - both of which are very good Italian machines.

              But back to Nicks' comment.

              I notice that the web site does NOT say or claim that the machines are of the German or European quality that we'd expect from there.

              Its far too easy to "read things into" an advertisement that is simply not there.

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              • #8
                Hey... the Germans have some failures

                how about these.

                http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-revi...owViewpoints=1

                all the best.markj

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                • #9
                  Blue or green?

                  Thanks for that good example Mark. I am surprised that Bosch didn't pick it up either prior to or during production.

                  There are two separate ranges of Bosch tools:

                  green for "cost-conscious/Home/domestic/DIY" use:
                  http://www.bosch-do-it.com.au/diy/

                  and blue for the more "rugged" - and expensive - "Industrial" use:
                  http://www.bosch-pt.com.au/professional/

                  So I guess that "it depends" as regards use and quality/cost. I'd expect the industrial stuff to be a lot more robust (and expensive) than the lower cost "home use" item.

                  But is seems that Bosch were pretty good as regards the warranty/replacement issue.

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                  • #10
                    That drill was the diy range one..but had in my opinion a pro price tag. ..sold for more than £140

                    how do i know about its failings ?

                    I just picked up a working example from car boot sale for £1

                    and as i was looking for info.....those results came up

                    The drill is in very good condition is 24 volts ..and has two very good batts with it ..

                    strangely enough my 9.6 volt makita that Ive had for more than 15 years (batts are that age too) seems more powerful than it.

                    the Bosch seems to have a 1.- 5 torque limiting feature .but it also limits it , even when its not on dialled-in to limiting feature ..so you never see the full power ..most odd...
                    altogether .its clumsy.. awkward to use .heavy..and generally not up to the job.......id be well peeved if i paid £140 for it .

                    All the best.markj

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                    • #11
                      I bought that lathe from a dealer in Quebec, JasonB over on HSEM also owns one bought from Warco in the U.K. I know of one other person that will be buying one in the next few months. I also own a Seig C-6 and I will say it's 10 times the lathe that the C-6 is. There is or was a dealer in California.

                      Pete

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                      • #12
                        you must really hate that big American beer company
                        Not at all. I even don't know it. But "Weiss" (= White) is a German name. I don't think that this implies superiority, no racial thinking here!
                        But for me, it's abvious that they want to pretend something here. They could have chosen "White" or "Leblond" with the same effect.


                        Nick

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                        • #13
                          Hey... the Germans have some failures
                          I really don't like Bosch-tools. Makita, Fein, Festool are better options.


                          Nick

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                          • #14
                            Weiss is also a German manufacturer of automation raceways and indexers. I would think that they would be the ones the most upset.

                            http://www.weissna.com/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by uncle pete
                              I bought that lathe from a dealer in Quebec, JasonB over on HSEM also owns one bought from Warco in the U.K. I know of one other person that will be buying one in the next few months. I also own a Seig C-6 and I will say it's 10 times the lathe that the C-6 is. There is or was a dealer in California.

                              Pete
                              Thanks for the comments, Pete. I'll try on Monday to find out who the dealer in SoCal is.

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