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    Hi guys:

    Just gotta say:
    I placed an order with them this Monday and they have delighted me like nobody has since I was 19, but that's a different story.

    Anybody in Canada stuck for stuff from McMaster-Carr should definitely check them out. They don't have the same range but...
    Mike

    My Dad always said, "If you want people to do things for you on the farm, you have to buy a machine they can sit on that does most of the work."

  • #2
    What wrong with McMaster? They have always shipped our stuff the next day. KBC is nice too, Rutland is not bad, I don't think those two are part of the MSC empire.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by squirrel
      What wrong with McMaster? They have always shipped our stuff the next day. KBC is nice too, Rutland is not bad, I don't think those two are part of the MSC empire.
      I don't think anything is wrong with McMaster-Carr. They terminated my 10 year account due to security issues with shipping outside of the USA. I don't blame them but I still need stuff.

      I suspect you live in the USA.
      Mike

      My Dad always said, "If you want people to do things for you on the farm, you have to buy a machine they can sit on that does most of the work."

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      • #4
        KBCtools sucks here in canada.
        First off: EVERY single item KBC sells is 30% more expensive on there .ca website then the .com. Even $3000 2lb items, so its not shiping, and not tax. They offer no real excuse for this other then gougeing canadians when other people have phoned and asked them.

        Iv bought several items from them, only to have them not be remotely the same as the item pictured in the catalog (even the monthly sales catalog often has pictures of the WRONG item with diffrent features!), item discriptions wrong (like saying a belt/disk sander runs at 2000sfm and the disk at 1800rpm, when it has a 2" wheel for the belt.. hint, the math says 1000sfm~)

        There toolroom grinder for example had the following faults:
        No reversal of motor
        No holes for mounting diamond/cbn wheel on the right
        Blew deticated 15A slowblow circuit breakers half the time on turnon due to NO STARTING MECHANISM AT ALL, no starting relay or current relay or anything, just a pitafuly undersized starting capacitor so it took 30+ seconds to spin up, insted of using a decent sized starting capacitor and a relay to avoid burning out the starting winding. Praticaly had to hand spinup the wheels to get it to startup without blowing a breaker.
        The wheels where held on by large 1" nuts.. that prevented the worktable from getting within 3/4" of a diamond/cbn wheel.

        Nothing was keyed, so even if you could get it to reverse the nuts would unscrew themselfs eventualy.
        Oh, and it cost $500+ insted of harbor freights MUCH better clone for $180
        The one I returned still sits on the KBC 'used item' shelfs to this day, without a dollar taken off its price.

        I bought a compass from them that turned out to be made half outta plastic and have lame 'bending' points in it that constantly bend whenever you try and use it, ruining your circle, when the one pictured showed all metal construction and no lame bending points half way down the arms.

        Iv had to return multiple files because they keep sending me the wrong ones! I order a bastard and smooth of the same file and they send me two smooths! or order a safe edge file and they send me a normal file!

        Anyone in canada should shop at (in no perticular order) Glacern, Shars, KMStools, Busybee, Grizzly (Now ships to canada?), Enco (Has better selection then KBCtools and better prices!), Tools4cheap, Princess auto, Hell, even horror freight id call better customer service and dollar value then KBCtools.
        Last edited by Black_Moons; 06-08-2010, 02:51 PM.
        Play Brutal Nature, Black Moons free to play highly realistic voxel sandbox game.

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        • #5
          Many years ago.

          I was a regular customer of KBC Tools, both for my own business and my employer. One Tuesday I received flyers and discount coupons at home showing that a new branch was opening a little nearer than the main store. The flyer gave times of opening, including Saturday mornings. On that very Friday i left my parallels on my employer's mill, and on Sat morning up came a customer with a job that needed parallels. I climbed into the old truck, early Dodge Diesel and clattered off, only to find a hand written scrawl on the door saying " Closed due to Holiday weekend". I fired off a fax of complaint, and was invited to return to the store to discuss the matter. To my astonishment when I returned, hoping perhaps for an apology and perhaps a few discount coupons the manager virtually called me an idiot for working on a holiday weekend. I didnt go back for years. About 5 yrs ago I went to the main store , dealt with a salesman i had not met before and bought one item, and was asked If I would like to go on the mailing list, I said yes and gave my details. I never heard a thing and can only suppose I am on a blacklist for complaining, They have probably lost over $ 30,000 of custom from me and the firms I have worked for since the first incident. I will not willingly or easily ever deal with them again. Regards David Powell.

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          • #6
            Hi
            KBC customer since 1988....
            Great service and good products.
            The TMX line is a great product for the $$
            eddie
            please visit my webpage:
            http://motorworks88.webs.com/

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MotorradMike
              I don't think anything is wrong with McMaster-Carr. They terminated my 10 year account due to security issues with shipping outside of the USA. I don't blame them but I still need stuff.

              I suspect you live in the USA.
              Yes, that is an issue. We stopped all export sales over $200 unless they are paid with direct bank wire transfer.

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              • #8
                KBC- you get what you pay for, they sell alot of made in China junk, but almost everyone carries low quality import stuff. Another good one is Travers Tool, check online or they will send big catalog. Edmonton has Thomas Skinner they sell excellent quality good name stuff but $$.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Black_Moons
                  KBCtools sucks here in canada.
                  Wow. We seem to have had completely different experiences.
                  One item had to ship from the states and it was a holiday so they made 2 shipments. Total shipping - $12

                  I buy chinese crap but I also buy good stuff and I appreciate the choice.

                  Thanks for the other options you guys have posted.
                  I'll check them out.
                  Mike

                  My Dad always said, "If you want people to do things for you on the farm, you have to buy a machine they can sit on that does most of the work."

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                  • #10
                    before i buy anything for my shop i always shop around, and so far KBC has never once come close to the same or cheaper price then the places i use here which are haskins and Busy bee.

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                    • #11
                      I buy from KBC occasionally, but nothing that isn't a well-known name brand. I got the best prices on 16ER threading inserts from them, and they were Carmex (who was the supplier to Valenite.)

                      When I was buying a insert cutoff blade-holder block, they had an untouchable price on a Made In USA Newcomer. Everyone else was over $100 (Valenite was over $200!) but their Newcomer was PERFECT for about $74. They still have those prices, BTW.

                      I placed orders by phone using their on-line catalog numbers. When using their website to order, their e-commerce site SUCKS because there's no way yo know what the shipping & handling charges are until AFTER you've entered your credit card information.

                      I'll continue to do some business with them, but only when I can truly know that their prices are best.

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                      • #12
                        You guys who mention KBC has the 'best prices' on some things forget to mention one thing. for us canadians the exchange rate is now 1:1 yet KBC canada prices are 30% higher then kbc.com
                        So here in canada, they generaly have the WORST prices, and just 'ok' prices when there US site has 'really good' prices on something or a big sale.
                        Play Brutal Nature, Black Moons free to play highly realistic voxel sandbox game.

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                        • #13
                          Not to keep the post going but I must explain...
                          I do this, machining, for a living as well as a hobby.
                          Most times I do not have the time to shop around or wait for a reply from someone on e-bay , etc
                          KBC and Kennametal is usually over night
                          Travers is 2- 3 days.
                          And Yes I pay more, but time = money squared.
                          (This was Einstein second great discovery )

                          And I do shop around and get bargins elsewhere when I have time...

                          eddie
                          please visit my webpage:
                          http://motorworks88.webs.com/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Black_Moons
                            You guys who mention KBC has the 'best prices' on some things forget to mention one thing. for us canadians the exchange rate is now 1:1 yet KBC canada prices are 30% higher then kbc.com
                            So here in canada, they generaly have the WORST prices, and just 'ok' prices when there US site has 'really good' prices on something or a big sale.
                            our dollars are not exactly 1:1 but even so , there is still duty to pay so the prices are still going to be hi for us in canada.. so long as we have duty to pay plus not to mention some US states we have to not only pay their tax but both of ours as well when it hit the border .so again the prices stay up, and right now there is no go around for this garbadge,

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                            • #15
                              I own a business in Windsor Ontario. We have a KBC right up the street. We use them regularly because when I need something they usually have it in stock. The last few days when my employee went in to pick up small items he got the doesn't reach minimum bull. If this continues we will likely start going elsewhere for our needs. I can see a min. if you are ordering something that needs to be shipped but for walk in it drives me nuts.

                              Doug

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