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  • #16
    Originally posted by MotorradMike
    Savvy group here. Good news.

    People who believe they can get more out than they put in are impossible to convince otherwise. Explaining/arguing/proving, is a complete waste of time. Best to smile and walk away..............................................
    We're trying to do that now with wind turbines!!
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    Thank you to our families of soldiers, many of whom have given so much more then the rest of us for the Freedom we enjoy.

    It is true, there is nothing free about freedom, don't be so quick to give it away.

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    • #17
      Perpetual Motion

      I believe in Perpetual Motion, although I doubt that we will ever replicate it. My line of thinking is this: If matter can't be created or destroyed, only changed into other forms of matter, then all the atoms in everything have existed since the beginning. Yet they are all still moving. Also, we know that the universe itself is constantly expanding, some say at an ever increasing speed. Those two items have been going continuously for millions of years. That seems fairly perpetual to me.
      Kansas City area

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      • #18
        Perpetual motion is real in theory (If you went infinitely far outside of the universe). The problem is when you factor in things like friction or intermolecular forces (or the pull of objects in space on each other). It's the people that don't understand physics who fail to realize that there's a million things to ruin perpetual motion.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by saltmine
          Somewhere out there, in La-La land, there is somebody who actually has found perpetual motion. Eventually he will make it public to the world, or give up in frustration because nobody will believe him.

          I'd rather invent a Phase-Conjugating Microwave Propulsion System, with the option for FTL travel. That can lift 24,000 metric tons with the energy from one flashlight battery.
          I've already done that but mine used a battery made from wire & potato's & would lift 25,000 tons, I gave up in frustration because nobody would believe me & my potato's got mashed

          john
          Last edited by jugs; 07-18-2010, 07:59 PM.
          John

          I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure , but I'm not a complete idiot - some bits are still missing

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MotorradMike
            Savvy group here. Good news.

            People who believe they can get more out than they put in are impossible to convince otherwise. Explaining/arguing/proving, is a complete waste of time. Best to smile and walk away.

            I saw a University in Australia sucked into this somehow. All they would say as a comment was "We strongly advise against investment until the concept is proven".

            Well, hybrid cars just run on electricity, don't they? I mean, all you have to do is plug them in now and then and that's free, isn't it? The electricity just comes out of the plug where the cable is hooked up.......

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            • #21
              You know what REALLY works?

              Boobs.

              Big 'uns.

              The girl who was selling Fitch Fuel Catalyst to our equipment maintenance dept. has 'em with x, y & z out to ((there)) and did she ever sell a bunch of them!
              Len

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              • #22
                Originally posted by QSIMDO
                You know what REALLY works?

                Boobs.

                Big 'uns.

                The girl who was selling Fitch Fuel Catalyst to our equipment maintenance dept. has 'em with x, y & z out to ((there)) and did she ever sell a bunch of them!
                I too have fallen prey to hypno-tit wielding sales-chicks in the past.

                Them damn things ought to be illegal.
                This product has been determined by the state of California to cause permanent irreversible death. This statement may or may not be recognized as valid by all states.
                Heirs of an old war/that's what we've become Inheriting troubles I'm mentally numb
                Plastic Operators Dot Com

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                • #23
                  Forget perpetual motion, I want a room temperature super conductor.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RB211
                    Forget perpetual motion, I want a room temperature super conductor.
                    I use that in my anti-gravity generator and cloaking device.

                    ...made the mistake of putting them both on the same shelf now I can't find either of them until the battery for the cloaking device fails.
                    This product has been determined by the state of California to cause permanent irreversible death. This statement may or may not be recognized as valid by all states.
                    Heirs of an old war/that's what we've become Inheriting troubles I'm mentally numb
                    Plastic Operators Dot Com

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by goose
                      Are we not perpetually falling towards Earth? What energy keeps us here? The centrifugal force of the Earth turning should fling us off into space. No? Why is this energy never consumed. Conservation of energy does not apply?

                      We have so little understanding.............

                      Uhhhh....gravity,dude. That's why you never see middle aged sales ladies, and porn star men go FOR EVER!!!

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                      • #26
                        Here is a prime example. This bozo thinks magnets alone will make a wheel spin forever. I say its bull I bet they spin the wheel with an air hose off to the side where you dont see it.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0oUaPZ_wF8&NR=1
                        Watch this video. At about 1:45 he lays down a metal plate which bounces up and down on its own (watch carefully). Shortly thereafter one of the 1-2-3 blocks moves 'on it's own'. It would appear there is an AC field underneath the "surface" being filmed.

                        Fred

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                        • #27
                          simple physics. takes energy to make energy, and under load, any machine consumes more energy than it outputs in one way or another. creating energy/motion results in a waste/tradeoff somewhere.

                          gave up even looking at perepetual /free energy stuff. the closest i came to finding a perpetual motion machine is my five year old grandson, but he sure can eat!!!!!
                          CCBW, MAH

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                          • #28
                            We had a female Snap-on tool dealer when I was still working. She was good looking, smart, outgoing, and friendly. She also outsold every other tool dealer in the area. She did, that is, until Snap-on loaded her down with way too many tools for her to move. She went out of business, had her truck repossessed, and, sort of, disappeared. She was good people, and she could sell vegetables to a tribe of cannibals.
                            GNM109 mentioned the "200mpg Carburator"
                            The mystery "200mpg carburator" actually did exist. It was designed and built by a fellow named Charles Nelson Pogue, in the 1930's. During tests, it was installed on a Ford flathead V-8 and driven almost 200 miles on four litres of gasoline, during a rainstorm.

                            Scientists later examined the carburator and discovered the metal alloy the carb was made of was catalyzing the fuel, and water vapor was somehow aiding the process, which explains why the car performed better when it rained.

                            No, auto makers and oil companies didn't buy his patent, or pay him off.
                            When gasoline producers started using tetraethyl lead in their fuels to boost octane ratings, the lead totally negated the effect.

                            In the 1950's, John R. Fish designed and produced the "Fish Carurator" which, due to it's design, offered excellent fuel atomization and metering.
                            Unfortunately, the adjustments were basically what killed it. The average car mechanic or hot rodder couldn't comprehend the complex carburator, and many times, a simpler carburator was substituted and the "Fish" was thrown away.

                            The "Fish" was endorsed and used by many professional racers in the 1950's.
                            It is still being manufactured. But, it's expensive, and the waiting list is six months long.
                            Last edited by saltmine; 07-18-2010, 10:41 PM.
                            No good deed goes unpunished.

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                            • #29
                              The mystery "200mpg carburator" actually did exist. It was designed and built by a fellow named Charles Nelson Pogue, in the 1930's. During tests, it was installed on a Ford flathead V-8 and driven almost 200 miles on four litres of gasoline, during a rainstorm.
                              Assuming the original vehicle got maybe 20 mpg then the magic carb would have to somehow extract 10 times more energy from the same amount of gasoline.

                              Flat out impossible. See my signature.
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                              • #30
                                I was only kidding about the carburetor...that's why I mentioned a tinfoil hat.

                                I'm pretty sure that the 200 mpg carburetor was an apocryphal story. On the other hand, the oil companies could care less how much fuel we use.
                                Last edited by gnm109; 07-19-2010, 12:20 AM.

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