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  • OT: Poor economy or Poor business practice

    This is really confusing, 5 heating and A/C contractors have been contacted for a quote on a new commercial installation and NO ONE has provided a quote. This is shocking since it's a 5 digit project, are they that busy or just stupid?

    Called the local cement contractor to schedule a time to pour our patio slab at the house, guess what 2 weeks and no reply ( we did call twice).

    So is the economy really poor or is it poor business practice?

  • #2
    Neither. Your phone is broken ;-)

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    • #3
      Were these all small-time independant contractors? I've had some really BAD experiences with that sort of business, mostly regarding reliability.

      As sad as it may seem, the contractors that work through home depot have given me really good service. I'd assume because home depot does courtesy calls after the job to check up on their work.

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      • #4
        I have never found the types you mention to be reliable. Roofers are the worst.

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        • #5
          I've had similar problems, especially when I had the slab & foundation poured for my shop. I've found word of mouth is the best way to locate a good contractor. Ask around and find someone who is a friend of a friend, that's how I found both my concrete man and my HVAC repairman.

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          • #6
            I've had the same experience with Heating & A/C, Tree Service, Concrete & Tuckpointing, and Roof & Siding Contractors. All well before the economy tanked......

            If I contact 5 different companies, only one (SOMETIMES two) ever show up to give a bid. And the ones that DO show up usually do a lousy job. So I guess the GOOD ones are all too busy.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dr Stan
              I've had similar problems, especially when I had the slab & foundation poured for my shop. I've found word of mouth is the best way to locate a good contractor. Ask around and find someone who is a friend of a friend, that's how I found both my concrete man and my HVAC repairman.
              The cement guy poured our garage addition over a year ago and did a pretty decent job so I felt comfortable with him. It might be because the IDIOT cement truck driver did not have enough experience or brain power to lock the front drive axle and both drive axles on the truck and was buried axle deep in our yard AND tore up the neighbors yard. Needless to say I had to pay for the repairs to our yard and the neighbors!!!!!!!!

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              • #8
                Money is tight. Some of these guys may not be able to get loans to purchase materials or cover labor until the job is done and you pay off. Have any asked for "up front" money?
                Weston Bye - Author, The Mechatronist column, Digital Machinist magazine
                ~Practitioner of the Electromechanical Arts~

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                • #9
                  I had the same experience with 2 different Armature shops.
                  The first one never called me back or answered my questions.
                  The second had my motor for 2 weeks, and I never heard a peep out of them.
                  Finally I had to call them, and Baldor service MYSELF, to get the warranty work done.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Weston Bye
                    Money is tight. Some of these guys may not be able to get loans to purchase materials or cover labor until the job is done and you pay off. Have any asked for "up front" money?
                    No, they have not. I will not release funds until the air blows cold and the heat works.

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                    • #11
                      I needed service on an RV refrigerator.I called 2 shops,one I got a machine and no call back for almost a week.The second needed an appointment and upfront money and it would be at least three week wait......times must be better than the media leads us to believe.

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                      • #12
                        The AC guys might be busy,this time of year is worse than summer in that biz.Not only do you have hot sweaty customers with broke units,you also have folks wanting heaters cleaned and checked.The one we use here has a 3 week lead on quotes.

                        The concrete guys,well they may have trouble keeping a crew together right now.If they don't have enough work,they send people home.The hard workers will hit the ground running and find another gig.The lazier ones will lay back on UNEP,neither is available to work when the next job comes up.
                        I just need one more tool,just one!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BigMike782
                          I needed service on an RV refrigerator.I called 2 shops,one I got a machine and no call back for almost a week.The second needed an appointment and upfront money and it would be at least three week wait......times must be better than the media leads us to believe.
                          I tend to believe it is too, and the TV media is hurting for cash and every little thing is extremely dramatized. I feel the media is as much to blame as the Greedy BANKING industries and the current policy makers for dragging this out. Some of the the biggest investment firms have hedged on inflation increasing and they stand to make BILLIONS of dollars if inflation increases a couple points. So I am almost positive the spin machine will begin running full speed AFTER the election and you will here about the sky falling due to inflation.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RobbieKnobbie
                            Were these all small-time independant contractors? I've had some really BAD experiences with that sort of business, mostly regarding reliability.

                            As sad as it may seem, the contractors that work through home depot have given me really good service. I'd assume because home depot does courtesy calls after the job to check up on their work.
                            I have had the opposite experience , the small independent businesses give better quality and get the work completed , may have to wait as these guys are often very busy.
                            The major contractors are often not interested in any work under $100k and basically give you the run around.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mike4
                              I have had the opposite experience , the small independent businesses give better quality and get the work completed , may have to wait as these guys are often very busy.
                              The major contractors are often not interested in any work under $100k and basically give you the run around.
                              You have a good point.

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