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  • #16
    Call me crazy, but I would much rather buy a lathe that was left rusty than one that cleaned improperly, as some on here have done in the past. Some of you are calling the kettle black on this one. Yes, his price is outrageous, but that lathe will clean up and likely be just as accurate (more so if previous owners had any ability) as a new one. If the paint was shiny and the price ~$500, quite a few of you would be discussing what a deal it was, and I for one would be sitting here quietly thinking that is still outrageously overpriced.

    My point - value is widely contended depending upon your buying experience, location, and personal preference. I guarantee I spend more time every week shopping for used tools/tooling than most, and to me thats a $75 lathe, but you wont hear me run it or the seller down. At most, I will just state what I think the value is and notice any major flaws, but always in a respectful manner. There are a ton of overpriced listings on various classified sites every week, who cares? If youre a prospective buyer and want an opinion ask for it, but those giving opinions should keep it respectful. If you dont have anything helpful to contribute, or are just looking to run someone down, go elsewhere. I came to this board to get away from crap like this on PM.

    Oh, and for those curious - I am one of the proudest "buy US iron" guys going, and honestly do detest Asian machinery.
    "I am, and ever will be, a white-socks, pocket-protector, nerdy engineer -- born under the second law of thermodynamics, steeped in the steam tables, in love with free-body diagrams, transformed by Laplace, and propelled by compressible flow."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by justanengineer
      Call me crazy, but I would much rather buy a lathe that was left rusty than one that cleaned improperly, as some on here have done in the past.
      I agree.
      Better to know what you're getting into.
      He could've painted the whole thing pink, including the lead screw.
      Mike

      My Dad always said, "If you want people to do things for you on the farm, you have to buy a machine they can sit on that does most of the work."

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      • #18
        Originally posted by justanengineer
        Call me crazy, but I would much rather buy a lathe that was left rusty than one that cleaned improperly...
        ...that lathe will clean up and likely be just as accurate... as a new one.
        You're crazy! (you asked for it. ) If a person allowed his tool to become a pile of rust, it's obvious to me that he's never cared for it, lubricated or cleaned it properly. The machine was abused, so you'll get all other problems IN ADDITION to rust.

        If all you mean is that you don't like when a problem is masked by painting over, I agree with you. But I'd never even consider buying a lathe that was so obviously neglected. This guy doesn't care about his tools, and he doesn't give a damn about prospective buyers.

        P.S. That is assuming the seller is the person who actually used the lathe.
        Last edited by MichaelP; 06-13-2011, 11:16 PM.
        Mike
        WI/IL border, USA

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        • #19
          Originally posted by justanengineer
          Call me crazy, but I would much rather buy a lathe that was left rusty than one that cleaned improperly, as some on here have done in the past. Some of you are calling the kettle black on this one. Yes, his price is outrageous, but that lathe will clean up and likely be just as accurate (more so if previous owners had any ability) as a new one. If the paint was shiny and the price ~$500, quite a few of you would be discussing what a deal it was, and I for one would be sitting here quietly thinking that is still outrageously overpriced.

          My point - value is widely contended depending upon your buying experience, location, and personal preference. I guarantee I spend more time every week shopping for used tools/tooling than most, and to me thats a $75 lathe, but you wont hear me run it or the seller down. At most, I will just state what I think the value is and notice any major flaws, but always in a respectful manner. There are a ton of overpriced listings on various classified sites every week, who cares? If youre a prospective buyer and want an opinion ask for it, but those giving opinions should keep it respectful. If you dont have anything helpful to contribute, or are just looking to run someone down, go elsewhere. I came to this board to get away from crap like this on PM.

          Oh, and for those curious - I am one of the proudest "buy US iron" guys going, and honestly do detest Asian machinery.
          Sorry crazy, Nothing real patriotic about buying used USA made equipment that I can think of.
          Buy some new and significant USA machinery besides a Sears table saw and then you can brag on that.
          In the mean time, if it's alright by you, I'll continue with my first impressions of the guy asking $2400 for this suspiciously Asian looking lathe.

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          • #20
            Same pic, price "down" to $850...any takers?

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            • #21
              If you buy that lathe you will need some tooling to go with it..

              http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-fa...-389057610.htm

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              • #22
                Originally posted by The Artful Bodger
                If you buy that lathe you will need some tooling to go with it..

                http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-fa...-389057610.htm
                LOL



                Exceptional value here and selling well below there true worth. I am no expert but most cutting options are represented here.


                No expert but he knows their true value....
                Precision takes time.

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                • #23
                  Maybe what someone needs----

                  I run a virtually identical lathe, almost daily. It earns some of my my bread and butter and maybe a bit of cake occasionally. If I needed spares I could not make, or spares in a hurry, then $ 850 COULD be a great bargain. My top slide always was poor, ( poor design and poor manufacture). I have sorted it out to my reasonable satisfaction, but certainly would not mind having another around. Obviously the lathe advertised has been neglected and possibly is damaged, but for someone it could be a very good buy---- try asking Busy bee for any spares for the 1990 12 by 37s .Regards David Powell.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by The Artful Bodger
                    If you buy that lathe you will need some tooling to go with it..

                    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-fa...-389057610.htm

                    I love the text....

                    Exceptional value here and selling well below there true worth. I am no expert but most cutting options are represented here.
                    in Toronto Ontario - where are you?

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