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  • EddyCurr
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    Originally posted by mototed
    What are the search methods on this site.

    I have a new question about flood coolant. I know has come up in the past,
    I must not be searching correctly.
    Originally posted by J Tiers
    For one thing, as with so many sites, if a search term is 3 letters
    or less (like "HSS", "DRO", etc), the search term is totally ignored.....
    you cannot search on it.
    The default search feature (as appears at the top of the page of
    a vBulletin site such as this) is crippled by the lack of context - it
    attempts to bring back everything and succeeds at delivering very little.

    OTOH, with some knowledge and practice, the Advanced Search is a surgical tool.

    Also, the statement that this forum cannot be searched for three-character
    strings is incorrect. I get the following results for a search within the
    General section of this forum using the adjacent key word strings.
    • 'cut' 18
    • 'dro' 4
    • 'hss' 9

    However, like most things, the database this forum is founded upon needs
    periodic maintenance. If it is not reindexed by the administrators from time
    to time, then search results begin to suffer. (Other forums with higher
    volumes of traffic experience troubles more rapidly than this occurs here.)

    I suggest that after a routine reindexing, the result counts for the
    forementioned strings will be more in line with expectations.

    .

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  • Evan
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    Alta Vista has a search modifier that I wish Google would implement. it is the command <near> meaning that the search term must be within a specific word count from the other search terms. Very useful.

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  • noah katz
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    the syntax to use google to search any site is

    search terms site:siteurl, i.e., widget site:ebay.com

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  • lakeside53
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    ... and similarly for ebay. Use the search syntax well and you will find what others cannot. For some items, individual words or pairs can never cut though the clutter, but with a few adjusters you can zero in.

    The most common problem is too many returns. If you see for example the word Honda and Nissan in the returns that has nothing to do with what you want, add those words to the search expression with a minus sign in front.

    It would of course be nice if Google, Bing and Ebay used the same syntax

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  • Evan
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    Those aren't "workarounds". They are how the search engine works and have been there since the start. The advanced search implements the same syntax if you click all the proper items. It's easier to just type them in instead of using the advanced search function.

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  • J Tiers
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    Originally posted by Evan
    For exact phrase search on Google put the phrase in quotes AND put a plus sign ahead of the phrase. Like this: +"south bend"

    An easier way is to simply join words with the plus sign such as light+black
    When they provide an "exact phrase" line, and then IGNORE it, I don't feel much like doing a code-typing workaround for what SHOULD ALREADY WORK.

    Google is starting to be as evil as microsoft, only more so.

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  • Evan
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    For exact phrase search on Google put the phrase in quotes AND put a plus sign ahead of the phrase. Like this: +"south bend"

    An easier way is to simply join words with the plus sign such as light+black

    Google never cares about case. It does care about the order of search terms with the first having greatest importance etc. Use the + to force inclusion and the - to force exclusion.

    Google also ignores most prepositions and connectives as well as single and 2 letter words with a few exceptions. To make them part of the search put them in quotes with a plus sign.

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  • J Tiers
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    Well, not very.....

    For one thing, as with so many sites, if a search term is 3 letters or less (like "HSS", "DRO", etc), the search term is totally ignored..... you cannot search on it.

    Even Google is not what it used to be..... I put in "exact phrase" for "advanced search", and instead, it splits the words up and gives me hits on just one or two of the "exact phrase" words....... Which should NOT happen.

    Google needs clobbered, something funny is going on there. Maybe bribes to get "special positioning" in the search. Dunno, just know it does not work as it used to.

    Google still works better than the abysmal crap that passes for a search on the forum itself.

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  • alanganes
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    I just use this:

    Google search HSM!


    Just for the record: This is not my creation. Just passing it along.

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  • mototed
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    Thank goodness, maybe there is hope for me after all. After all these years of trying the search menu, I just could not get the proper results to narrow down to what I was looking for. Was just wondering if there was some sort of voodoo magic I was missing.
    Thanks,
    Ted

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  • Black_Moons
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    Originally posted by Evan
    It doesn't, really. Use Google.
    Yep, They should really just replace the search button with a direct google search of the site. The forum search is just usless.

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  • lakeside53
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    yes... ignore this and most site search functions.

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  • Evan
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    Exactly how does the search work here?
    It doesn't, really. Use Google.

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  • DFMiller
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    Ted
    I just did a search for flood cooling and came up with 4 pages of threads.
    Dave

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  • mototed
    started a topic Exactly how does the search work here?

    Exactly how does the search work here?

    Hi,
    What are the search methods on this site. I have had better luck using Google, that refers back to this site than I do using the search function on the site its self. Is there some sort of punctuation that I'm not using for more specific results? I hate to start a new thread for old information that may be already available. I have a new question about flood coolant. I know has come up in the past, I must not be searching correctly.
    Thanks
    Ted
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