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  • lazlo
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    Originally posted by toolmaker76
    I was talking to a friend of mine today about it, who had also been at the auction, and we both made the observation that it seems the bigger equipment sells for less than the smaller stuff.
    For a lot less. The market for manual lathes are hobbyists and small job shops, so prices peak at ~ 12 - 14" swing, and drop quickly toward scrap price for bigger machines. Big shapers and manual milling machines are often sold at way less than scrap price. MickeyD and I looked at a K&T Rotary at a guy's house in San Antonio -- he told me I could have it if I got it out of his garage. LOL!

    But for the OP, the value of a used machine tool always boils down to wear on the ways and the condition of the bearings. And considering this wasn't a high-end lathe to begin with...
    Last edited by lazlo; 08-14-2011, 11:10 PM.

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  • hardtail
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    That is a nice size bore.........your current lathe will appeal to the masses so you should do good on it........the lathe you are looking at has less appeal to many, not usually brands that a business would be interested in and too big for homeshop types........I wouldn't go less than 16X60 for another and preferably with a gap bed.......if it checks out ok with reasonable quality, little wear and good care I could go close to his asking prices if it came with some extras.......

    The Monarch macona speaks of or that recent sliding bed LeBlond would be nice also but years of use on those..........

    Actually I bought my Tos for $2200 way closer to you than it was to me.........

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  • hd28vsb
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    A couple of reasons I am looking at this lathe is
    It has a 3 5/16 bore which is a huge convenience many if the older lathes lack a large spindle bore . And also it is located nearby to me.

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  • macona
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    I think my friend who owned the Monarch series 60 we had at tech shop ended up selling it in the $2000 range, and it was about this size. To move it it was about $1000.

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  • Fireman11
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    I would think that if you look and are patient, you could get huge lathes for scrap, perhaps less because they are hard to move and not many have space and power for them.

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  • justanengineer
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    Just an observation, but I regularly see Pacemakers, L&Ss, and Monarchs that are mint for $6-8k. Why buy a Chinese machine for that price when the good solid iron is selling for that?

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  • gwilson
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    The Enco lathe is a real cheap lathe. I wouldn't trust the same lathe that old. Probably minimal quality to begin with. Though the lathe looks the same,Enco parts may not quite fit.

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  • PixMan
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    I think it's going to take a lot more than $2000 to $3000 to get it, but it's always worth a try.

    I've got a 1974-vintage Victor 1640 lathe that I'm sure I could get $1800 to $2200 for tomorrow to an end user. You could perhaps double it if I started throwing in all the like-new chucks, faceplate, steady rest, CA-size QCTP (with 14 holders), DRO and other tooling bits. Barebones to a dealer (with just the steady, old DRO and a beat-up 3-jaw I still have), it would still get $800 to $1000 because these are still a very popular lathe despite being nearly 40 years old and a Taiwan import.

    Just like a car, a machine is worth whatever you can get for it if selling and whatever you're willing to pay if buying. Pricing influences include how many are nearby, how many people are out looking for one, overall age and condition of those offered, how easy is it to get onto a truck, age, condition, tooling, and yes, looks count.

    If I could get a TOS that size, age and condition over here for $3000, I'd probably be able to double my money or better. Those are nice machines.

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  • davidwdyer
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    As someone else already mentioned, don't forget the cost of loading, unloading and shipping. With something that big, this could add up.

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  • John Stevenson
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    No, It's 11 years old it will be off the books by now and have a value of say $100.
    It will be sold to a dealer for $500 to $900 tops.
    So work out the markup and what it's worth.

    A TOS lathe over here of this age and size is worth £3000 tops

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  • PixMan
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    Seems like a fair price, especially if it includes some of the tooling, and/or any taper attachment, steady and follower rests, coolant system, etc.

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  • hd28vsb
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    The price on the lathe is $6500 , which appears to be roughly half the price of a new one . Assuming it is as clean and tight as I described do you think $6500 is a ok price?

    Thanks

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  • PixMan
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    Yeah, I was WAY off. I went looking on Ebay and found plenty of them for $15K and under, with most of the decent-looking ones in the range of $9K to $13. I did see a rather good-looking Harrison M400 18x60 for the lower end of that.

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  • gwilson
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    A 20" X 80" lathe isn't all that big. However,when they do get big,they bring less proportionally than smaller lathes. Smaller lathes useful to home shop users sell better.

    P.S.: That lathe looks a lot like one of the large,cheaper model lathes that Enco sells. Just has different paint. I don't have a catalog handy,but they aren't real expensive. Look up Enco's lathes.

    P.P.S.: I looked it up for you. It is EXACTLY the same lathe,Enco brand,#505-1206,cost $12,878.98. I doubt anyone else will beat that price. It was a little trouble finding it in the online catalog,but with the model#,you will do o.k..
    Last edited by gwilson; 08-13-2011, 10:24 PM.

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  • The Artful Bodger
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    Google it, you will find them for sale by dealers in very tidy condition for $10K.

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