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The chinese are getting worse and worse - they simply don't play fair - Im really trying to buy USA any chance I get.
I just put a new muffler on my old honda and it's made in USA --- score! Thrush turbo's are still made in the good ole USA...
Hell they'll have to put diapers on them to catch the oil.
Seriously? What [newer] Harleys do you know that leak that much oil? The oil under the Harley joke is getting old.
Now the joke about Harley being a clothing company is closer to the truth, unfortunately....
China probably regulates you buy new every 11 years so they can promote their own economy selling cheap flimsy scooters on their crappy overpopulated roads.
The chinese are getting worse and worse - they simply don't play fair - Im really trying to buy USA any chance I get.
The Chinese do in fact have many illogical restrictions against motorcycles, but they aren't against Harley specifically or any other brand.
There are no motorcycles allowed on the freeways. There are no motorcycles allowed in the city centers of many major cities (Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou). These restrictions are increasing all the time, and may even come into effect in my town.
In most places, the size of the engine is limited to 200cc, and the vast majority of new bikes are 125cc.
There are many Hondas, but they are made in China.
The 11-year restriction is done simply to keep old, piece-of-junk bikes off the road. Around here, the vast majority of owners do not maintain their machines with any regularity. They are abused until they break, and then held together with bailing wire. Little pride of ownership, for the majority a motorcycle is just a beast of burden, and the local bikes are ugly and not worth saving anyway. So 11 years is the most you're going to get.
The roads are choked with scooters, motorcycles, electric bikes, bicycles, three-wheeled utility carts (powered and not), buses, cars, trucks, vans, etc. All competing for limited space. Motorcyclists routinely drive wherever they want - through intersections, against the light, against traffic, without lights or signal, etc - so they are seen as road hazards.
Here, riding a motorcycle is not a life-style choice, it is a necessity for the poor who can't afford a car.
Again, I'm talking about the vast majority. For the wealthy who can afford a Harley, and who are physically big enough to hold one up (not a trivial consideration for many Chinese), the regulatory restrictions almost don't apply. If you're connected and well-to-do, you can buy anything and get it licensed underground. That's how most Harleys are sold now, and will continue to be in my opinion.
Have you seen how the Chinese drive? I cannot bring myself to imagine driving on the freeway with Chinese drivers on Harleys. Oh, the carnage.
And Boomer, you want to buy American? Commendable, but what percentage of the components of a Harley are actually made in the USA?
I was just in Sturgis three months ago, and we stopped in the Harley shop. Not a single bike on the floor, not designed for them really. 3/4ths floor space devoted to clothes, rest for bolt on stuff, stickers and such. This was two weeks before the rally, and they had lines at both registers. Amazing!
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