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    I am insane... bought another lathe... a Rivett

    I saw this a few days ago on CL, and said " I do not need this, that cabinet is too big, that would be crazy".

    So today, I "got a message" to call the number.....called, and the guy (who builds dragster chassis) still had it, and didn't sound like he had had many calls. So off I go and buy it, like any crazy man.

    So I have lots of work to do, which I do NOT have time for, and don't want time for, since we need to be busy at work....but.....

    Now, I got it for a price that would be a good deal for an Atlas lathe, so I probably am OK there despite the good, bad, and ugly. And there is some of each.

    Here is the grainy CL photo, which I won't keep up too long, I didn't take it. But I have no other pic of the thing together right now.


    detail photos Note that the bed is off the cabinet, and the headstock was also pulled from the bed. So some photos are odd-looking simply because the bed is laying on its side on some 4 x 4 lumber cutoffs.

    Apron


    Carriage top


    Tailstock
    CNC machines only go through the motions.

    Ideas expressed may be mine, or from anyone else in the universe.
    Not responsible for clerical errors. Or those made by lay people either.
    Number formats and units may be chosen at random depending on what day it is.
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  • #2
    more pics of it

    headstock (detached)


    quickchange (detached before I bought it.... found inside cabinet, apparently prior owner had no clue)


    one drawer of stuff


    other drawer of stuff
    Last edited by J Tiers; 11-06-2011, 10:33 PM.
    CNC machines only go through the motions.

    Ideas expressed may be mine, or from anyone else in the universe.
    Not responsible for clerical errors. Or those made by lay people either.
    Number formats and units may be chosen at random depending on what day it is.
    I reserve the right to use a number system with any integer base without prior notice.
    Generalizations are understood to be "often" true, but not true in every case.

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    • #3
      yet more pics of stuff

      Under-drive unit as-is


      The "humongoose" cabinet that weighs entirely too much and is questionable as to fitting down the stairs


      Now for the UGLY

      Ugly No 1.... you probably saw this already


      Ugly No 2..... no better than No 1........
      Last edited by J Tiers; 11-06-2011, 10:37 PM.
      CNC machines only go through the motions.

      Ideas expressed may be mine, or from anyone else in the universe.
      Not responsible for clerical errors. Or those made by lay people either.
      Number formats and units may be chosen at random depending on what day it is.
      I reserve the right to use a number system with any integer base without prior notice.
      Generalizations are understood to be "often" true, but not true in every case.

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      • #4
        So. That is most of the good, and ugly

        Does anyone see missing things that are really bad (aside from teeth)?

        Ugly No 1 and 2 are not good.... I suspect No2 can be welded up and then teeth cut again without horrible distortion, possibly not. Ugly No 1 is a question.... a sleeve maybe, I don't think welding is going to be good, and there are a lot of teeth missing for a braze-up.

        There are a couple 4 jaw chucks with it, which as of now, I have no clue if they go with it or not.... there is a little compound that clearly does not, it looks like it came off a 109 and got tossed in the box.

        I did get a collet drawbar, and 2 or 3 collets. I don't know which nose this has, so I don't yet know what collet they are. they look kinda like a 5C, but seem a bit longer (I have no 5C to compare to and have not checked the dims).

        For the "decent deal for Atlas lathe" price, I suspect I didn't pay too much. It was very obvious that neither the current owner nor the prior owner had any idea what it is.
        Last edited by J Tiers; 11-06-2011, 10:45 PM.
        CNC machines only go through the motions.

        Ideas expressed may be mine, or from anyone else in the universe.
        Not responsible for clerical errors. Or those made by lay people either.
        Number formats and units may be chosen at random depending on what day it is.
        I reserve the right to use a number system with any integer base without prior notice.
        Generalizations are understood to be "often" true, but not true in every case.

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        • #5
          Well most addictions aren't very pretty

          Congrats on the new lathe "kit"
          I just need one more tool,just one!

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          • #6
            Funny how this "hobby" gets completely into the "blood"...and, perhaps not surprising given the lacking quality of current cabinets, I think that is a "wave" that is happening...sort of like some using older cast iron legs plus a heavy wood top for tables...I came across a beat up Hardinge the other day and its still tempting to go back just for the heavy weight and well thought out cabinet... can beat trying to build something from scratch that will never equal the design/quality

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            • #7
              Looks like the bull gear has a crack in the hub.

              Is a Rivett a well-regarded lathe?

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              • #8
                It isn't a crack, it is an intentional cut, purpose unknown to me right now.

                Yes, Rivett is indeed well regarded, and this seems to be a Rivett 608 on the "steel kneehole cabinet" (in which there is in fact no actual "kneehole").

                Now THIS one does not seem to have been well-regarded by it's prior owners, who let it get very grimy and managed to strip off teeth per "Ugly No 1" and "Ugly No 2".
                CNC machines only go through the motions.

                Ideas expressed may be mine, or from anyone else in the universe.
                Not responsible for clerical errors. Or those made by lay people either.
                Number formats and units may be chosen at random depending on what day it is.
                I reserve the right to use a number system with any integer base without prior notice.
                Generalizations are understood to be "often" true, but not true in every case.

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                • #9
                  If it will help here is a good amount of Rivett informatin:

                  Index of /Shaper Books/Rivett_Lathes
                  http://neme-s.org/Shaper%20Books/Rivett_Lathes/
                  Errol Groff

                  New England Model Engineering Society
                  http://neme-s.org/

                  YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/GroffErrol?feature=mhee

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                  • #10
                    That's the 8" precision lathe? It'd be a beauty to restore!

                    Rivett 8" Precision Lathe
                    http://www.lathes.co.uk/rivettearly608/index.html
                    Early Rivett 8
                    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by lazlo
                      That's the 8" precision lathe? It'd be a beauty to restore!

                      I think it is a somewhat later 608, based on the QC and cabinet

                      look down this section a ways

                      Rivett 608 Lathe
                      http://www.lathes.co.uk/rivett/page2.html


                      I'd be OK either way, and yes it would..... I suspect it would run rings around the old Logan 200..... IF I can get the thing restored and aligned correctly.

                      I fully expect it to take a couple years at the current rate..... I am in the middle of one restoration (a mill) now, it got stalled for the "crop-growing season", despite the fact that I spent absolutely NO time on a tractor....
                      CNC machines only go through the motions.

                      Ideas expressed may be mine, or from anyone else in the universe.
                      Not responsible for clerical errors. Or those made by lay people either.
                      Number formats and units may be chosen at random depending on what day it is.
                      I reserve the right to use a number system with any integer base without prior notice.
                      Generalizations are understood to be "often" true, but not true in every case.

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                      • #12
                        Are you going to flake the living daylights out of every exposed surface, like the one on Tony's page?
                        Sure looks purty that way...
                        "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did."

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                        • #13
                          Purty can go stew!

                          I want it to be back in working order.

                          I will certainly check and if required scrape anything needed..... but I HATE flaking..... if you mean the "Nike swoop" patterns. When I see them I immediately think "EBAY".... Of course the ones in the pics on Tony's site were done by a master scraper hand, just a tad better than the "angle grinder divots".

                          If I figure out how to "frost" (the square spangle pattern from old B&S equipment) AND I get done and have any "wanna do more" left, I might do that.... but that is a long time from now.....
                          CNC machines only go through the motions.

                          Ideas expressed may be mine, or from anyone else in the universe.
                          Not responsible for clerical errors. Or those made by lay people either.
                          Number formats and units may be chosen at random depending on what day it is.
                          I reserve the right to use a number system with any integer base without prior notice.
                          Generalizations are understood to be "often" true, but not true in every case.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Errol Groff
                            If it will help here is a good amount of Rivett informatin:
                            Wow... I should say there is.....!

                            Thank you very much....... blueprints yet.... Yup, that's helpful alright!

                            I have to take it apart and fix/clean/remake parts, and without something like that info, I'd be having zero idea how to go about it.
                            CNC machines only go through the motions.

                            Ideas expressed may be mine, or from anyone else in the universe.
                            Not responsible for clerical errors. Or those made by lay people either.
                            Number formats and units may be chosen at random depending on what day it is.
                            I reserve the right to use a number system with any integer base without prior notice.
                            Generalizations are understood to be "often" true, but not true in every case.

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                            • #15
                              The busted back gears are very common. I had looked at a 608 locally a couple years back and it had the same issue.

                              From what I understand you can shrink new ones on.

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