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  • Hardinge Lathe?

    Just did my taxes, And this past year is the last year I have anything in my shop to write off, equipment wise. So, talking with my CFO (Wife), we are tossing around a new piece of equipment to buy.
    I'm considering a Hardinge HLVH. Not new, not sure you can even buy one, but I could not justify 50-60k. In my search for a good used one, I've come across HLVH clones.
    Does anyone have any experience with any of these.
    Here is a link to a company I found:

    http://www.babinmachine.com/index.php?TML5CEN

    They start at a third of the price of a Hardinge. That I could justify.

    What say you?

    Sid

  • #2
    For that kind of money I would buy this use it manually and learn cnc you will make more money with it in the long run. IMHO

    http://www.haascnc.com/mt_spec1.asp?...TOOLROOM_LATHE

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    • #3
      I am not sure of the Babin name and any connection with Al Babin who is known for somewhat questionable dealings on eBay.

      It is possible the lathes are the same as the Sharp Hardinge clones which are regarded as quality machines. AFAIK Sharp are Taiwanese manufactured. I believe Frank Ford has a Sharp and is pleased with it.

      http://www.sharp-industries.com/lathes/1118h.html
      Jim H.

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      • #4
        Hardinge Lathe

        I have run new and used Hardinge lathes of this type and Sharp and Feeler copies. The copies compare favorably with the original and are accurate, capable machines. As mentioned above, you can get much more functionality by getting a CNC machine for about the same price.

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        • #5
          Unfortunatly, for my type of design,prototype,fixtureing work a CNC lathe is not that usefull. On the other hand I use my Prototrak mill daily.

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          • #6
            JC....Paul Babin does the highest quality work i have ever seen (i have 35 years in the trade)on a machine. This is his site
            www.babinmachine.com

            Al Babin should be hung upside down and covered with leaches and a porqupine jammed into his private area.....
            Dean


            www.neufellmachining
            www.neufellmachining.com

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            • #7
              Al Babin should be hung upside down and covered with leaches and a porqupine jammed into his private area.....
              Dean

              Why are you going so easy on the guy?
              How to become a millionaire: Start out with 10 million and take up machining as a hobby!

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              • #8
                Thanks for the good report on Paul Babin. While it is quite possible the Babin, Feeler and Sharp machines differ only in their badging, it is important to know you are dealing with a reputable business when making a purchase of this magnitude.

                For my own purposes, I would consider these lathes as the ultimate HSM machines, and could be very happpy with one myself. I really have no need for a 16" swing 7.5HP machine for my purposes. If Haas has or were to produce a more realistically sized machine, I might develop some interest.
                Jim H.

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                • #9
                  Haas

                  They have an Office Lathe which is smaller.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JCHannum
                    Thanks for the good report on Paul Babin. While it is quite possible the Babin, Feeler and Sharp machines differ only in their badging, it is important to know you are dealing with a reputable business when making a purchase of this magnitude.

                    For my own purposes, I would consider these lathes as the ultimate HSM machines, and could be very happpy with one myself. I really have no need for a 16" swing 7.5HP machine for my purposes. If Haas has or were to produce a more realistically sized machine, I might develop some interest.
                    Haas used to make a cnc toolroom lathe which is basically a CNC hardinge HLV-H.

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                    • #11
                      Haas

                      That is the lathe shown in post #2.

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                      • #12
                        No, thats not it. It used the same basic castings as the HLV but all cnc. Had manual hand wheel controls too. I don't think they make them anymore.

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                        • #13
                          Ahh, found it. Haas HPCL

                          http://www.cnczone.com/forums/haas_l...cker_hpcl.html

                          http://www.meridianmachinery.com/cnctrn/2133.htm

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