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    The last of my Atlas machines needs to find a new home cuz I need the space. The Lathe and Mill were easy sells last summer as there were comparable sales in my area to help me price the items right. This Shaper is a different story. Haven't seen on for sale local for a long time and there is nothing currently on Ebay and only found one "completed sale" and it was way high.

    I'm in the Omaha where there is not a ton of this type of machine on the market, any good ideas on what I should price this thing at. I was thinking $500-$700. Am I way out of line one way or the other?



    regards

    3t

  • #2
    I paid $800 for mine. It was complete, is in great shape and works like a new one. I got my money's worth. Wish I could find the matching mill locally.

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    • #3
      There one just like yours I called about a week ago & called again yesterday & he said I was the only call. He's asking $600 but I don't think He'll get it. Today I found a larger one of a different brand for $150. It needs a good cleaning but is under power & works fine.

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      • #4
        Why is it that when someone has one of these for sale or comtemplating selling they have to live half way across the country?. Last one I looked at seller was in upstate New York. We do not see these little shapers here in Louisiana. Frank

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Frank46
          Why is it that when someone has one of these for sale or comtemplating selling they have to live half way across the country?. Last one I looked at seller was in upstate New York. We do not see these little shapers here in Louisiana. Frank
          Don`t see them much in Western Canada either.

          Classic,
          When I have the money, I don`t have the time...
          When I have the time, I don`t have the money..........

          When I do have the time and money, I can`t find one.
          Design to 0.0001", measure to 1/32", cut with an axe, grind to fit

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          • #6
            Originally posted by camdigger
            Don`t see them much in Western Canada either.

            Classic,
            When I have the money, I don`t have the time...
            When I have the time, I don`t have the money..........

            When I do have the time and money, I can`t find one.

            Does make me wonder what shipping to central Alberta might be. I suspect the bigger hassle would be getting it across the 49th (aka the medicine line).
            Design to 0.0001", measure to 1/32", cut with an axe, grind to fit

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            • #7
              Camdigger has it about right, I've only seen ads for two in the past 3 years or so, a later model Alba and a South Bend (both about the same size), in western Canada prices are high, those two were around $1600 (I assume both sold as ads were down long before renew time frame).
              A bit bigger does not really change the price (slightly larger stroke by Sheldon and Logan I think), a lot larger does show up on occasion and those too are about the same.

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              • #8
                I have two.... (need to have just one).

                One I bought for $150 off craig's list , the other I bought for $200, and had to force the seller (older family member) to take that much. Bought it for the vise.

                I hear of these $1200 shapers, but have never seen one actually advertised for that much locally.

                Now, a worn-out south bend 9" model C lathe with NO accessories...... Those list every time for $1200+. Don't know if they actually get it.
                1601

                Keep eye on ball.
                Hashim Khan

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                • #9
                  I bought a really nice Logan 8" shaper with a vice ect. fully tooled for $950.00 that had been on the S.F.Bay area Craigslist for most of a year. The guy, a retired machinist, restored the machine + made a really nice vice for it. The price? $950.00 was worth it to me. The drive to get it was the kicker, about 23 hrs. I do however have the means to cut internal keyways,splines ect. I have made splined locking lugs for a clutch assy. I'm building, and Vee ways in a block of steel to fit my lathe bed for the large steadyrest I'm building for turning/threading hyd. cylinder tubing. The uses are endless, but without one the machinist is doing allot of the work by hand, and thats allot of time that I don't have. I can now do projects in a timely manner that outherwise I wouldn't have even started on due to effort and time issiue. It is nice to have the proper tools to do the job. Due to my location, everything is far away. And everytime I travel to by someting off Craigslist that is many hours away I allways say I'll never do that again. Then I'll find something else. I try to stay off of Craigslist for that reason alone. Kinda like; I need a tool fix cause I'm a tool junkie!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by J Tiers
                    I hear of these $1200 shapers, but have never seen one actually advertised for that much locally.
                    .
                    I bettered that number. But it was perfect, no wear. With vise and guards and stand. It been taken apart to move into a basement and never put back together again; the bearing surfaces looked like they had never be used

                    When I got it numerous parts were missing including some big items like the base casting. I scrounged, bought from ebay and made several parts to get it as like original. Vise recondition (or rather conditioned, it was far perfect from the factory) via scraping. Then I imported Atlas legs at no small cost and made the top and shelf out of hard maple, all with a handlplane. For the condition of the machine and how effort and cost it took complete the package the price was fair. Sadly, it fell victim to the space crunch, had to go to make room for the bport cnc



                    Last edited by Mcgyver; 04-23-2012, 10:39 AM.
                    in Toronto Ontario - where are you?

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                    • #11
                      Camdigger,
                      Importing used equipment to Canada is not a big deal.
                      I have done one using a broker and another myself.
                      As long as you can convince them it's for personal use you can skip the broker. I got my one mill trucked up by a small independent trucker that was running small loads in a trailer to CA and returning empty. He brought it in bond to a warehouse. I walked in and did the paperwork. 10 minutes later I was on m way.

                      The little Barker horizontal I bought from HGR a few years ago cost a couple hundred to ship which was a minimum, then a hundred or so for the brokerage and HST.

                      The router I got from I'LL was about 300.00 plus fees.

                      If you can get it shipped to the nearest town south of the 49th and drive down you will cut shipping costs in half. Then it's just your time and Duty and Taxes.

                      don't be shy, it fairly easy.

                      Nice shaper, no room in my shop right now. Gotta unload some stuff.
                      Dave

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                      • #12
                        This one has been on E-Bay for a few days. Asking $950. I think that is pretty high, but on E-Bay he may very well get it.

                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atlas-7-Meta...item4844faebe9

                        I paid $500 for my South Bend. It is a later one with the pressure feed oil to the ways, is all original except the light and is in very nice condition.

                        The small shaper market is hard to figure. I was watching a South Bend on a government liquidation / auction site a few months ago because a buddy of mine just loves mine and wants one so I was keeping an eye open for him. That little shaper was missing the side door and a few other bits and had been left out in the rain to season a little. It sold for some insane price, I believe it was $2400 if I remember correctly. It was at Hill AFB in Salt Lake City.

                        Like someone else pointed out, the big ones sell for less than scrap. I want a 12" Hendy in a bad way, but I can never find one even remotely close.

                        Anyway, your machine looks like it is in pretty nice shape. I think you are pretty good on price, especially if you are willing to ship it for someone.

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                        • #13
                          What size do they call it? I believe the one i said was $600 is a 7" & the one for $150 is a 10".

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                          • #14
                            Thanks everyone for the responses. The machine is in great shape with a couple of minor items that don't bother it's operation. It is fun to use but doesn't get much attention so it needs to find a home where someone uses it more.

                            Flylo, it is an Atlas 7b, 7inch shaper.

                            I might give the local craigs list a try and see what comes of it.
                            regards

                            3t

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mcgyver
                              I bettered that number.
                              But you also advertised it here, in the form of a "rebuild" thread.
                              "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did."

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