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  • OT!!! Replacement windows tobe or not to be?

    Hey,
    My house is a 1944 house wood frame Old alluminum siding. Old wood double hung windows with the mulions and glazing . I looked into Marvin whole window replacement. STICKER SHOCK!!! Any body do it? Can't be that hard from what I have seen but it is hard to buy the good windows. Is it worth it anyway or would a slow tedious rebuild of existing windows be just as good? The windoiw replacements have a limited lifespan from what I hear yet the old wood ones are still pretty darn good afert 60 some years. Thanks to all Fred

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    Our house is 1917 with double hung windows. We did a combination of converting some of the rear windows to home made casement windows, new custom made double hungs in the front and a couple of Hunt single hung windows in the upstairs dormers. Lots of work but we are happy with the results. All the double and single hung have spring balances instead of the weights.

    Brian

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    • #3
      Laddy,
      I just finished replacing all mine a few months ago including a fairly large bay window. Depending on exactly what you want, the overall price floats quite a bit. I bought double glazed vinyl coated that are hung by exterior flanges. Their certainly not the worlds best, but really easy to hang yourself, and new windows and doors make a unbelievable difference. I wouldn't hesitate to do it again. A word of advice, double any estimate in hours you think it will take to do the job. New windows and doors then require new siding, that requires a new roof. The driveway starts looking like crap. Wife needs all new curtains for the new windows. Then the carpet starts looking shabby. Then.....................................???? It's a bit pointless to list everything though. Don't say I didn't warn you.

      Pete

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      • #4
        I sold windows for many years, including Marvin. If your frames are OK I'd recommend Silverline vinyl replacement windows. Silverline is owned by Andersen & have a lifetime warrenty on the whole window, frame, sash, hardware for as long as you own your home. After the first one they take about 1/2 hour each to install. Price should be $200 per window or less. PM me if I can be of any help. Thanks! Eric

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        • #5
          You can also buy the panes themselves and replace just the glass. It's much cheaper if the existing windows are standard sized.

          I've installed hundreds of windows, and on many of them the frames are so cheaply constructed that the glass is the only thing worthwhile in them.

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          • #6
            I replaced all the windows in the house a few years ago, several large ones included, triple pane, argon filled, low E glass. I went the best ones available at the time, almost $15000. Outside noise levels dropped to almost nothing and the wind doesn't whistle though anymore, worth every penny.
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            • #7
              Thing of it is, the windows , if tight, are not as bad a loss as you think, in many cases. naturally if they are shaky, loose, and let the wind through, they can use to be replaced. We lived in a place like that many years ago, $400 per month to heat it..... the landlord even gave us a break on the rent because of the insane expense... we were his first tenants, and he had no idea what the heat cost.

              Our present house is the same type exactly, brick with old wood windows, etc. But this house is TIGHT. Had an energy audit a few years ago (which was generally a total waste of money, I do NOT recommend energy audits anymore) and the total leakage area in the house was under a square foot equivalent. We also have hollow tile lining on the brick, which may not have been true of the other house.

              We have good triple track storms, and generally good windows. House stays pretty warm, although we do keep it on the cool side. new windows would be unlikely to ever repay their cost at present.

              With a frame house, built when insulation was not much of a consideration, the windows are the least of your problems. if new windows are like a concrete wall, the rest of the house is like a rotten picket fence. (I used to live in one like THAT also....) No point in replacing a 2 foot section of fence with concrete wall, but leaving 25 feet of bad picket fence..... First bring the house walls up to snuff, then worry about windows.
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              • #8
                Laddy, my house it about 3 years newer than yours. I bought 22 replacement windows for mine from The Home Depot, their "American Craftsman" brand, top model (at the time) No.9500. They ranged in price (because of varying sizes) from a low of $130 to a high of $190. When I bought there was a deal that if you bought 3 or more you would get Low-E glass and argon gas fllled. They're 4 years old now and are holding up great.

                As flylo indicated the first one tool me 45 minutes. By the time I got to the 3rd or 5th one, I was down to just over 20 minutes each.

                Once done, the first thing I noticed was the decrease in noise from the outside. HUGE difference! Later, I did find my heating bill (forced hot air by natural gas) had dropped by about 15%. The windows paid for themselves quickly from savings. The build quality assures the lifetime guarantee, the double-locks added to security. I might look around for overall better quality, though the ones I bought are still pretty good.

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                • #9
                  For twelve windows they are talking $25,000 I can't see it I will check out Silver line next then think about rebuilding. Thanks Guys!

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                  • #10
                    forgot to ask.... Did you guys do total rplacement, sashes and all or inserts into the existing window frame? Thanks Fred

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                    • #11
                      Should be able to do it for $2500. If you deside on Silverlines make you register them with Silverline then your all set.

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                      • #12
                        Don't count on getting results equal to Pixman's experience..... You won't unless the windows are really bad, and the walls are decently insulated, which was often not the case for houses built then.

                        And what kind of thieves are charging $2000 per window? Around here you can get a pretty darn good window for $500. A couple places advertise their $189 windows, but they usually end up costing around $225 each after the "fine print" factors in.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by J Tiers View Post
                          Don't count on getting results equal to Pixman's experience..... You won't unless the windows are really bad, and the walls are decently insulated, which was often not the case for houses built then.

                          And what kind of thieves are charging $2000 per window? Around here you can get a pretty darn good window for $500. A couple places advertise their $189 windows, but they usually end up costing around $225 each after the "fine print" factors in.
                          Agreed, Iv never heard of $2000 for a window. I think it was only $300 to get my car windshield replace and thats fancy bent glass, designed just for my truck with automanufacturer gouge on top!
                          maybe a 8'x10' bay window in a skyscraper that has to be made of 1/2" thick 'shatterproof' glass would cost $2000.. but none in a house thats for sure.
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                          • #14
                            Mullions and high end clear grain wood casings can and do add a lot to to the price that's for sure. Mine are obviously a different type and lower end window. 10 windows for my place and most were custom sized and built ended up at around $3,200, $900 of that was for the center bay window alone. But my price is with the standard Canadian rip off. I have no doubts you can do far far better than Marvin's attempted rape.

                            Pete

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                            • #15
                              $25,000 is insane.

                              Last year we got a local carpenter to replace the 1950s-era single pane double-hung windows in our house -- frames, sash, trim, the works -- with new Anderson Low-E double hung windows. I think it worked out to about $600 a window, and that was probably the most expensive way to go about it. If you keep the existing frames and just install vinyl replacement sash, I'd guess you could do it for about $300 a window, probably a bit less.
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