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  • Southbend lathe...worth attention?

    Here is a Southbend lathe for sale. Just wondering if the price is right.
    (given that it isn't well worn) no closeup pics.

    http://greenbay.craigslist.org/tls/3606335525.html
    John M...your (un)usual basement dweller

  • #2
    It is nicely tooled and apears in good condition. But it is a model C, which means change gears and no power crossfeed.

    If condition is as it appears in the photos, it is overpriced by a factor of two to three.
    Jim H.

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    • #3
      It looks pretty well cleaned up, painted and sporting a new belt. In the background of pic 3 you can see part of another lathe. I'm guessing this was a his restoration project piece. Around here 1600 would buy a lot more lathe and in as found condition this one might bring 500. Even though you could get a lot of enjoyment out of this machine, IMHO in the end you likely will not be fully satisfied with a machine with manual change gears. I lusted for many years not for a bigger lathe, but for a quick change gearbox.

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      • #4
        It is a SouthBend, but non-quickchange, no power crossfeed.
        I'd say start at $400, and then add $1-200 for the nice tooling package, so $5-600 MAX, on a good day, if you're feeling generous.
        At $1600 it's gonna sit for awhile.

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        • #5
          Thanks guys. Around here sellers of lathes think they all have gold bearings!
          ...but then again, so do the buyers.
          John M...your (un)usual basement dweller

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          • #6
            Here's another that might be of interest to a collector:

            http://greenbay.craigslist.org/tls/3541829652.html

            John M...your (un)usual basement dweller

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            • #7
              Or this one! not much for the price.
              http://greenbay.craigslist.org/tls/3539176649.html

              John M...your (un)usual basement dweller

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              • #8
                My rule of thumb is a clean basic 9" South Bend lathe model A in turnkey running condition with 3jaw, 4jaw, rocker toolpost, headstock sleeve + center + tailstock center, and tailstock chuck, is worth about $800. With more tooling things go uphill quickly. But when you go from model A down to model B it drops to $500 and to model C (can't do threading) maybe $400. So I agree with the above. The machine pictured is way overpriced. Plus, it has a supershort bed. Recommend you pass.

                metalmagpie

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                • #9
                  The value I'll leave up to the buyer, but re the Southbend, an antique like that is really not a lathe but more a conversation piece.
                  Gary


                  Appearance is Everything...

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                  • #10
                    I often check the prices in other locations...relatively local to you there seems to be a $1200 "line in the sand", Sears, another Southbend or two but not as well tooled and similar, all with asking prices of $1200 or so.
                    I guess not completely out of line but I often consider what is within a weekend's easy drive (return trip) and for you I think that means there must be more for the dollar out there.

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                    • #11
                      John
                      I believe the 500 dollar comments are right on ---for this neck of the woods.
                      I have known several SB's to go for that amount as there seems to be a lot of model C's
                      The model A's with tooling get 800 to 900 in fair condition
                      Rich

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                      • #12
                        It better be in very good condition for 1600.00.
                        otherwise, pass.
                        my .02

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by metalmagpie View Post
                          and to model C (can't do threading) maybe $400. S

                          metalmagpie
                          What they SHOULD bring is $500.

                          What people ASK for anything Southbend around here is $1000 for a bare lathe, no motor.

                          And why would you say that a model C does not do threading? It has no crossfeed, but still has halfnuts and leadscrew...... Of COURSE it does threading.
                          1601

                          Keep eye on ball.
                          Hashim Khan

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                          • #14
                            The short bed is a definite negative, but, assuming it is in good condition, it still would be worth a bit more than the average $500-$600 Model C due to its tooling. The tailstock turret is good for wow factor if nothing else, but the collet set, steady rest, micrometer carriage stops and what appears to be a good set of change gears are not often seen with these machines.

                            The collet set alone is worth in the $200 +- range, same with the steady rest. It does lack a four jaw chuck and faceplate.
                            Jim H.

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                            • #15
                              IMO, the owner should keep this one and dump the Atlas in the background.

                              The lack of QC gearbox isn't a deal breaker, unless you're doing ALOT of threading, one seldom has to change the feed.

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