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    Last week I asked for opinions on tablets. Yesterday I bought an ipad 4, freakin' awesome.

    large size book are completely readable.
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    Yep. I received one at Christmas and have almost ignored my laptop since. I really like its weight for all my work travel. I can even do my expense reports with receipts with this pad and the attached receipts are away better than my neat receipts scanned copies.love it too.A plus is my iPhone and pad update and sync to each other and I don't do anything to do that. Fantastic for the non techs like me.
    Only bad thing is I can't view videos that use flash...sucks...jim

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    • #3
      Originally posted by j king View Post
      Only bad thing is I can't view videos that use flash...sucks...jim
      When monopolies collide...
      "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did."

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      • #4
        Congrats on your new pad.

        I have been thinking about getting a pad of some type. What I want to know is are there any CAD programs that work on a pad and Windows too. I would like to be able to work on projects while I am sitting in waiting rooms or wherever. Excel would be a must also, again, with compatible files.
        Paul A.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Paul Alciatore View Post
          I have been thinking about getting a pad of some type. What I want to know is are there any CAD programs that work on a pad and Windows too. I would like to be able to work on projects while I am sitting in waiting rooms or wherever. Excel would be a must also, again, with compatible files.
          There probably are such programs, for both iPad and android and windows pads.
          I have apples spreadsheet program on my iPad (dont know if it is excel compatible) and don't like using it; it's not the program, it's the user interface of the iPad, I just don't like it for lots of typing, etc. I imagine id have the same complaints if I had one of the others.

          Looking at stuff and entering small amounts of stuff is no problem though. Again, I expect the same for iPads, androids, and windows tablets.

          Ymmv

          Frank

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          • #6
            Flash on the I-Pad:

            http://ipad.about.com/od/Productivit...n-The-iPad.htm
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            • #7
              For Android equivalent Excel, Word and Powerpoint compatibility I have SoftMaker Office for Android. I have just purchased it and have yet to try it but I have been using SoftMaker Office for Windows since the 2008 version. I am now up to the 2012 version for a total cost so far of under $100. In my opinion it is superior to MS Office and is very compatible. The spreadsheet is virtually identical including BASIC support. The Word equivalent is much more responsive and I have used it to create a document of 250 pages with numerous graphs and images. No slow down at all regardless of document size and in all it seems far more efficient. It is also extremely customizable and supports all the features of MS Office. Best of all the price is right. The Android version costs about $30. The license allows you to run it on three machines.

              http://www.softmaker.com/english/product_en.htm

              It is also available for Linux and the customer support is excellent the one time I needed it. Just a satisfied customer.
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              • #8
                KINGSTON office is free. Basic android tablets are around $100 these days

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by lazlo View Post
                  When monopolies collide...
                  It's more a matter of proprietary technology and market share rather than a monopoly, but the practical difference is indistinguishable. The internet is an odd player in the free market because common tools are desirable and while common remain proprietary at this point. This is one of those places where the government can step in and say with all the authority of the millions of rounds of bullets the TSA has been buying: "Gentlemen - these rails, to be laid on the soil of the United States of America, shall have a specified spacing, height, cap width, base width, crown, and laden capability."

                  And should they not meet that standard that railroad company loses the right to rolling stock in these 50 states. Same with essential data distribution tools. We all expect common and compatible multi-media and we don't want to have to see the "You need a plugin" message. The government set the standards for the telcos, highways, roadway signage, radio, and rail, and can do it for the information highway, too. If it is not for pay content it bloody well will meet these standards for FPS, audio fidelity, lowest commonly available bandwidth, and will run on common desktops free of charge. If you put it on the net you are obliged to ensure the visitor can see it. Free or not.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dp View Post
                    It's more a matter of proprietary technology and market share rather than a monopoly, but the practical difference is indistinguishable. The internet is an odd player in the free market because common tools are desirable and while common remain proprietary at this point. This is one of those places where the government can step in and say with all the authority of the millions of rounds of bullets the TSA has been buying: "Gentlemen - these rails, to be laid on the soil of the United States of America, shall have a specified spacing, height, cap width, base width, crown, and laden capability."

                    And should they not meet that standard that railroad company loses the right to rolling stock in these 50 states.
                    And so, The size of the space shuttle boosters where determined by the width of a romen horses ass.
                    Letting the government enforce standards is not always a good thing. Especialy not when it comes to the internet.
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                    • #11
                      I have a few apps on my Ipad.
                      Machinist calculator, works just like the hand held but can't loose it and it's cheaper.
                      Numbers which works like Excel.
                      Pages, which is like Word, think these were £7 each but installed on phone and pad.

                      Also got one called CAD view from fast cad which lets me just view drawings but in all fairness i have not been down the path of looking for an actual cad program as I had the phone first, pad second and the phone is limited by it's size.

                      This looks interesting, but not released yet.

                      http://www.orangejuicestudios.com/index.html
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                      Sir John , Earl of Bligeport & Sudspumpwater. MBE [ Motor Bike Engineer ] Nottingham England.



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Paul Alciatore View Post
                        What I want to know is are there any CAD programs that work on a pad and Windows too.
                        There is Autodesk Force Effect for iOS. I have used it about 6 months ago on my iPhone to validate my scissor lift. It is extremely buggy and frustrating to use, but didn't see any alternatives at that time. I hope Autodesk makes a desktop version of it that doesn't take an arm and a leg to buy.

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                        • #13
                          I don't think the ipad is much fun for anything that benefits from mouse or especially keyboard type input. I think if you want to use normal type applications then the Microsoft alternative is possibly the way to go.

                          Phil

                          Originally posted by Paul Alciatore View Post
                          Excel would be a must also, again, with compatible files.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dp View Post
                            It's more a matter of proprietary technology and market share rather than a monopoly
                            Apple supports Flash on MacOS, and could on iOS if they wanted to. They don't support Flash on the iPhone for the same reason the iPhone has really sh!tty maps: because of cross-licensing battles with Adobe and Google.

                            Originally posted by philbur View Post
                            I don't think the ipad is much fun for anything that benefits from mouse or especially keyboard type input.
                            Agreed. I run a Nexus 7 and a iPad, and they're basically read only devices. They're great for reading email, digital copies of Model Engineer, surfing the web, but lousy for entering text. Modifying a spreadsheet is especially irritating.

                            That said, CAD could be done in a reasonably elegant way on a tablet. I've played with AutoCAD on Android, and it's not bad. I just have a hard time adjusting to AutoCAD's 1980's interface. If you're an AutoCAD guy, you'll probably love it. The Android and iOS versions also have group-based sharing and annotation features which are pretty slick.
                            Last edited by lazlo; 04-26-2013, 10:16 AM.
                            "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did."

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                            • #15
                              How do you accurately pick-up on an object or drag a point etc, etc. A mouse gives you virtually pixel precision, if your eyesight is good enough.

                              Phil

                              Originally posted by lazlo View Post
                              That said, CAD could be done in a reasonably elegant way on a tablet. I've played with AutoCAD on Android, and it's not bad.

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