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  • Source for allen nuts.

    Does anyone have a source for metric allen nuts like these? http://www.mcmaster.com/#allen-nuts/=muz6hy Is there a different industry name for them? When I google allen nut and insert nut it brings up other stuff than these. I need them in 16mm. I would also be able to use a tuner style lug nut like these http://www.ebay.com/itm/16PC-ACURA-I...ce626a&vxp=mtr but all I see in them is 12mm. 7075 for the nuts would be ok, so would Ti but I probably couldn't afford them but I guess I would take what I can get in material. Thanks.

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    Is this an insert nut application? Or are you looking for the internal wrenching feature?

    Keenserts are available in metric sizes for the insert application.

    If you need the internal wrenching feature, maybe you could run a tap through an inch sized allen nut?

    Dave

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    • #3
      Maryland Metrics is always a good source for the oddball metric stuff, but unfortunately, they don't have a search engine like McMaster, so it can be a bit difficult to get around.
      Wayne

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      • #4
        Originally posted by becksmachine View Post
        Is this an insert nut application? Or are you looking for the internal wrenching feature?

        Keenserts are available in metric sizes for the insert application.

        If you need the internal wrenching feature, maybe you could run a tap through an inch sized allen nut?

        Dave
        I would be using it as nut not an insert. I essentially just need a regular nut and bolt to do the actual job but I am brainstorming ideas to make it a little more pleasing to the eye at the same time. I thought I may be able to use 1 of these on each side, I have the depth to recess but the OD of the nut may be to big for me to use.

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        • #5
          Would a Rivnut work for your application?: http://www.boellhoff.com/en/uk/faste...ogy/rivnut.php

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          • #6
            I have never seen those before but sure wouldn't mind finding a source that ships to Canada.
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            • #7
              "-- or use a 12 sided hex key"...wtf is a 12 sided hex key
              Amount of experience is in direct proportion to the value of broken equipment.

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              • #8
                Try searching for "barrel nuts", "chicago bolts" or "sex bolts". They may be able to do what you want. Alternatively, can you use an imperial socket head cap screw and imperial allen nuts instead of metric?

                Here is an example of some barrel nuts. Scroll down to about halfway down the page and you will see some socket barrel nuts. Not quite what you are looking for but maybe they will work? (Looks like the head diameter is slightly larger than a normal socket head screw head)
                http://www.anzor.co.nz/barrel-nut-dimensions

                Doesn't say what the thread size is and at 3.25 a pop, it may not be what you want, but here are some that I suspect are metric

                http://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Inf...C%20Each%20%20

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rosco-P View Post
                  Would a Rivnut work for your application?: http://www.boellhoff.com/en/uk/faste...ogy/rivnut.php
                  No, it needs to function like a regular nut would, not a threaded hole.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fasttrack View Post
                    Try searching for "barrel nuts", "chicago bolts" or "sex bolts".
                    I guess I'll just take your word for it. Since I'm at work I'm not going to run the search for "sex bolts" just yet.
                    George

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by George Bulliss View Post
                      I guess I'll just take your word for it. Since I'm at work I'm not going to run the search for "sex bolts" just yet.

                      LOL - "sex bolts" in the McMaster-Carr search brings up the proper fasteners. Not sure what Google might produce... I just call them barrel nuts

                      http://www.mcmaster.com/#sex-bolts/=mv2s6p

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fasttrack View Post
                        Try searching for........ or "sex bolts".
                        Ok, now it sounds like you are setting be up for failure when I go searching that on google.. Right after the page loads the wife comes in and wants to know why I am searching for Allen's nuts and sex bolts.

                        I could use an imperial sized one but it would require me making an entire new axle for those threads. As it stands now I could use the old one and just rethread one side of it the same as the other.

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                        • #13
                          Do an internet search for INTERNAL WRENCHING NUTS.

                          Here are some nice metric ones:

                          http://www.ballerbolts.com/inwrnuanu.html
                          Cheers,

                          Frank Ford
                          HomeShopTech

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                          • #14
                            Things like that have been around a long, long time. The ones for moulding in may be a newer development, along with the other insertable devices like the brass high thread to twist into particle board or MDF.

                            I pocketed 1/4-20 Holokrome Allen Nuts when working for Cincinatti Milicron in the middle '70s...to dress up the cast aluminum valve covers on my Mopar 440.
                            gvasale

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                            • #15
                              Frank
                              At those prices they should be supplied in solid gold.

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