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    US Preparing for Military Draft in Spring 2005
    by Adam Stutz • Wednesday January 28, 2004 at 09:50 AM
    The current agenda of the US federal government is to reinstate the draft in order to staff up for a protracted war on "terrorism." Pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the program so the draft could begin at early as Spring 2005 -- conveniently just after the 2004 presidential election!

    Reinstatement of the draft

    Dear Friends and Family,

    I urge you to read the article below on the current agenda of the federal government to reinstate the draft in order to staff up for a protracted war on "terrorism."

    Pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the program so the draft could begin at early as Spring 2005 -- conveniently just after the 2004 presidential election! But the administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed NOW, so our action is needed immediately. Details and links follow.

    If voters who currently support U.S. aggression abroad were confronted with the possibility that their own children or grandchildren might not have a say about whether to fight, many of these same voters might have a change of mind. (Not that it should make a difference, but this plan would among other things eliminate higher education as a shelter and would not exclude women -- and Canada is no longer an option.)

    Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents.... And let your children know -- it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change! Please also write to your representatives to ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills -- and write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important story.

    The Draft*

    $28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. SSS must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see website: http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the SSS Annual Performance Plan - Fiscal Year 2004.

    The Pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of Congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle5146.htm

    Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and H.R. 163 forward this year, entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, "To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18--26] in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently sit in the Committee on Armed Services.

    Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era remember. College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the US signed a "Smart Border Declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's Minister of Foreign Affairs, John Manley, and US Homeland Security Director, Gov. Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their cur-rent semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

    *This article by Adam Stutz is from the "What's Hot Off the Press" column of the newsletter of Project Censored, a media research group at Sonoma State University that tracks the news published in independent journals and newsletters. From these, Project Censored compiles an annual list (more than 20 years running) of 25 news stories of social significance that have been overlooked, under-reported, or self-censored by the country's major national news media. The mission of Project Censored is "to educate people about the role of independent journalism in a democratic society and to tell The News That Didn't Make the News and why."

    "What's Hot Off the Press" includes student synopses of articles currently being investigated for inclusion in the next Project Censored report. For more info and/or to receive Project Censored's newsletter, go to http://www.projectcensored.org

  • #2
    It's already back. Military personnel who have served their agreed term of service have had their term of service extended, like it or not, since middle of last year.
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    • #3
      Well if college is out and Canada is out your not bloody coming here [ UK ] and pinching all our cheap machines.

      Scotch Joch is watching the North, I'm watching the middle bit and we could care two sods about down South as it's a machinery desert.

      Just to rub it in [ gloat ] here's an advert from one of todays UK groups.
      BTW is about $1.65 to a UK pound.

      ***********************
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      I've only just found this newsgroup, so I apologise if I'm breaking
      any rules by advertising.

      I have:-

      Over 600 "Model Engineering" mags from 1950's - 90's: آ£30

      "Engineering in Miniature" in binders, vol's 1,2,3,4,7,8,9 plus 40
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      Sir John , Earl of Bligeport & Sudspumpwater. MBE [ Motor Bike Engineer ] Nottingham England.



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      • #4
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        • #5
          "Just to rub it in [ gloat ] here's an advert from one of todays UK groups.
          BTW is about $1.65 to a UK pound."

          Lucky bast...
          All we get here is a free bottle of seal oil!!
          Would you like to trade,say 1 liter of seal oil for that M&W 2-12" internal mic' !!
          eddie
          please visit my webpage:
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          • #6
            <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by motorworks:
            Would you like to trade,say 1 liter of seal oil for that M&W 2-12" internal mic' !!
            eddie
            </font>
            I didn't buy any of it - I thought it was high priced

            John S.



            [This message has been edited by John Stevenson (edited 04-21-2004).]
            .

            Sir John , Earl of Bligeport & Sudspumpwater. MBE [ Motor Bike Engineer ] Nottingham England.



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            • #7
              You guys should use Google more often,see my other post on the subject.
              I just need one more tool,just one!

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              • #8
                Sounds like they have Bush elected already. How else would the SSS report to Bush in May 2005? Can't blame Bush for this one. It's the Democrats that are pushing this through.

                They need this so they have another excuse to raise taxes. By the way, What happened to the $1.8 trillion the Dems "saved" cutting the military seven years ago? Did you see any of it? I think too many of them got left out of the pie. The Dems just keep trying to make a bigger pie.

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                • #9
                  Been there, done that.

                  Jerry

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                  • #10
                    John....

                    You and Bill Gates... too much trouble to pick up the $1K bill that slipped out of your wallet. Life in the land of riches....

                    --jerry
                    dvideo

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                    • #11
                      "MY" son turns 18 in November.

                      It means his MOM is finally off the money tit then.

                      Unfortunatly for him, the draft with research is coming back. Mostly still for poor people I am sure.

                      David

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                      • #12
                        Oh boy, I see the anti-war protests of the sixties/seventies coming back.

                        The young people I know don't seem concerned with our oveseas aggression. Probably has a lot to do with the fact that they aren't faced with the military draft like my geneneration was.

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                        • #13
                          Draft, hmm, I wonder if they'll let some of us old farts come back in?
                          Might not be able to move as fast as we used to but I guarentee you we're smarter and sharper than we ever were and a lot more level headed!
                          You talent is God\'s gift to you.
                          What you do with it, is your gift back to God! Leo Buscaglia

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                          • #14
                            <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by L6steel:
                            I guarentee you we're smarter and sharper than we ever were and a lot more level headed! </font>
                            L6steel- I don't think those are qualities that are sought after in conscripts... Like ibewgypsie, I have an 18 year old son. The thought of losing him in an ill begotten scheme to save some third world **** hole from itself really gets me torqued.


                            [This message has been edited by x39 (edited 04-22-2004).]

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                            • #15
                              Do you guys remember what happoned on 911?
                              That was worse than Pearl Harbor.
                              And we had to nuke the Japs to make them lay down.

                              I don't see where Mr. Bush started this.
                              These people had already declared war on us on Clintons watch.

                              Just hope the guys drafted have the right to have a beer, and vote this time.

                              In some states (Florida) the service mans votes weren't counted this last election.

                              mite

                              [This message has been edited by metal mite (edited 04-22-2004).]

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