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  • loose nut
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    When given lemons some people collapse, some make lemonade, the more capable make "Mikes Hard Lemonade". Life is what you make of it. Flylo is right, good or bad, these are the good old days.

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  • Old Hat
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    Originally posted by flylo View Post
    Home, home on the range has a bit different meaning to me. LOL target range!
    Teddy wud have been Proud!

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  • flylo
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    Home, home on the range has a bit different meaning to me. LOL target range!

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  • Old Hat
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    Originally posted by flylo View Post
    We have it very well & how busy, overworked, stressed is set by the the choices we make. Smartphones, cable TV, new cars & trucks,etc. If we lived like our grandparents did we'd be less stressed for sure. I love being cheap, thrifty whatever & use a $5 cell phone with a $10 a month bill, drive good used cars paid for with cash, no cable but Netflix & Amazon because we don't watch hours & hours of TV. Own everything we have, don't believe in staying in debt & only then to buy a home. Lease our farmland to pay the taxes & expenses, selectively log our remote hunting property on a 10 year cycle. To make a long story short, live simple, find ways that pay your expenses & be debt free, happy & above all thankful. Theses ARE the good old days!
    I donno if you should leave that post up for long!
    You might have squatters before you know it, and don'tcha know it, they're a protected species.

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  • flylo
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    We have it very well & how busy, overworked, stressed is set by the the choices we make. Smartphones, cable TV, new cars & trucks,etc. If we lived like our grandparents did we'd be less stressed for sure. I love being cheap, thrifty whatever & use a $5 cell phone with a $10 a month bill, drive good used cars paid for with cash, no cable but Netflix & Amazon because we don't watch hours & hours of TV. Own everything we have, don't believe in staying in debt & only then to buy a home. Lease our farmland to pay the taxes & expenses, selectively log our remote hunting property on a 10 year cycle. To make a long story short, live simple, find ways that pay your expenses & be debt free, happy & above all thankful. Theses ARE the good old days!

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  • danlb
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    I often find that I can't believe how easy we have it.

    We have medicines that make let most children make it to adulthood. We have procedures that make the infertile able to have families. Heart attacks are often not fatal, and the quality of life after heart surgery is quite good. Child diabetics live full, long lives, far longer than the 20 years that was typical when my brother was diagnosed in 1960.

    We have instant access to more than just trivia. We have access to more "how to" information than was ever available to our parents. The encyclopedia set that my parents bought with a month's income was a treasure trove of information that put me ahead of many others at school. Today that information is available to just about everyone.

    Since this is the Home Shop Machinist, I should mention that even THAT is much easier than it used to be. 10 years ago I could not spell lath. Now I have two lathes, both purchased for very little, and even better, I know how to use them thanks to the internet and a 4 hour class that validated what I learned by myself. The same goes for my mills. they cost me less than a week's pay for both of them. Now I'm following the same path with welding. The proper forums are as useful as spending time with a mentor IF you can weed out the bad advice. You have to do that with mentors too.

    My grand dad retired in his 50's, but he'd been injured in the train yard. I retired in my 50's so that I could enjoy life before I hit the point where I was not able to do the things I want to do.

    Life is easy. Life is good. So's the coffee.

    Dan

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  • Old Hat
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    It would be interesting if the Earth were on one of those show-case News/Drama shows
    like Good Morning America or what have you.

    The hoste would ask, "So, Earth.... how you feel'n today?"

    And the earth replys "Well I got a bad case 'O humanity just now, but I'm run'n a fever
    so it'll pass soon. Had it a few times before. I'll be OK .... and You? };~)

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  • loose nut
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    We have it easy and I wouldn't want it any other way. The good old days weren't that good.

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  • J Tiers
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    Those folks from before, compared to whom we have it easy......... they had it easy compared to people before them.

    You needn't go back many generations in my family to find folks who had dirt floors in their "houses".

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  • Old Hat
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    Human beings were designed to overcome.
    We at at our best when driven by need and under-supplied and under-equiped.

    Individuals and the collective, both deteriorate at a rate that is directly proportional
    to a lack of obsticals and lack of exposure to even life-threatening conditions.

    Like many animal species that are kept in a zoo, or even a temporary santuary,
    this easy lifestyle leads to a corrosion of our inner workings and a dulling
    of our receptiveness to our surroundings. The outlook is bleak.

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  • justanengineer
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    Like many viewpoints this one depends on the person's personal view and what they take into consideration. In some ways we have it easy, other ways very difficult. My grandfather for one led a relatively easy life in some respects as did many others of his generation. Despite a depression during his 20s, he did fairly well for himself and enjoyed life bc of a lack of bills and taxes. He didnt have much, but he also didnt need much. The only bill due on the family farm until power was connected in the late 40s were the taxes, and with almost no government or gov programs in that day the taxes were pretty ridiculously low. So long as they were paid and they raised enough food for the family + some to barter, he could pick jobs in various industries (or not) or travel as it interested him, and he did both regularly bc he wanted to. Yes, attending the state fair was a weeklong trip rather than the day trip it is now, but they had the time and did go. No, they didnt have power or the internet, but they also slept much better/longer every night and were overall in better physical condition.

    As I write this I feel stuck in the rat race. Ive worked late hours many time such as tonight, I have a cell phone and a laptop that travels to-from work with me and Im expected to handle important obligations at odd hours as such. If I quit this morning I'll still have a power, internet, cell phone, insurance, water, and NG bills due, not to mention the bills I actually need to survive like food and shelter, and I certainly cannot afford a farm to meet those basic needs myself in this day and age.....yup, Ive got it EASY, I'm a slave to my existence.
    Last edited by justanengineer; 08-22-2014, 03:44 AM.

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  • fixerdave
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    Yes... we have it easy.

    Take, for instance, that notion that you can, instead of doing the same stupid thing over and over again for a significant portion of your life, type your stupid question into a little box and, as if by magic, un-stupid people from all over the world jump in to set you straight. Yes, all this typing and reading takes time, but it's usually time that used to be wasted watching the stupifyingly-boring box we used to call the 'TV'. If you were unlucky enough to be exposed to that during daytime hours then you'd know how truly horrifying an experience it was. Yes, "Daytime TV" is on the list of things best entirely forgotten about.

    Honestly, I had it good growing up. I'm old enough and grew up rural enough that I saw what it was like to go without. However, my father was a smart, inventive, and capable man. WE always had indoor plumbing and OUR home was always warm. Many of our neighbours didn't make either. At our house, the toilet flushed even if my father had to tank the water in and keep it from freezing with a stove.

    But, I think the most amazing thing, for me, is the drop in tool pricing. My father never had a power drill. He had access to a drillpress at work, but I don't remember him ever doing it at home. He had torches and a welder and did amazing things with them, but we were poor and powertools were too expensive. He was a journeyman mechanic by trade (originally heavy duty) and his hand tools were gold. I'm surprised he didn't kill us the way we treated them. I think through a lot of history, a man was defined by the tools he had. You followed your father in his career because you inherited his tools as much as his skills. I have enough tools that serious tradesmen of even 40 years ago would turn green with envy. I use them to make... let's say "little of value." Those tools were not exactly a financial hardship to acquire... just hobby purchases. I'm not anywhere near rich, by national standards, and the tools don't amount to much compared to income.

    Yes, we have it very easy,

    David...

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  • darryl
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    You said it, Alistair. How can it be that millions of people who would be peaceful are led by the very few that would be warmongers. What was that song by Donovan- Universal Soldier- 'without him all this killing can't go on'-

    Soldiers have long been teenagers, and pre-teens as well. What a tragedy.

    On another note, I've finally figured out how you can walk to school and back and it's uphill both ways. When thousands of people walk to the same school, the ground sinks a bit. Then it's uphill to get out of there. Wha- only took me 60 years to figure that out

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  • Alistair Hosie
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    The saddest thing is there are many places in the world where people still resolve their differences by going to war.I wonder if someday instead of spending hundreds or thousands of billions on weapons the world eventually wakes up and comes together to resolve our differences in a peaceful way.Think of all the good things we could do with all the weapon money.We could virtually eradicate world poverty and not have to worry about our sons and grandsons going off to die in terrible un popular illegal wars. Surely everyone agrees war brings nothing but missery for everyone, no one wins , as the truth is that everyone loses in the end.Perhaps the imperfection of mankind simply will not allow this, I DON'T KNOW but I have never met anyone decent person who would not rather live in peace and bring an end to this pereptual madness .And yet we still allow a small number of people (who don't take part in war themselves or allow their own family memebers to,) yet they can if they wish force our children to go and die. For example how can it be that several million people took to the streets here in the U K prior to the iraqi war to demand to our government that we did not get involved in war in iraqAnd yet Tony blair and his cohorts even realising no one in britain wanted this very unpopular war still defiantly went ahead and started what turned out to be a nightmare for hundreds of thousand of people many children etc.I dream of the day when such a small group of politicians are not able to over ride the voice of the people (that surely is not democracy?) And what is happening now in that region was well and truly many times pointed out to those warmongers by the many experts of the day, they were all warned and still they went ahead.Alistair

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  • loose nut
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    Originally posted by Juergenwt View Post
    There is on thing however that our generation has experienced that no other generation can claim: the drastic increase of inventions during our life time.
    For thousands of years people used horses to help them get around. Our generation was the lucky generation to experience the transfer from horse power to automobiles to airplanes to rocket power. We advanced more in one generation than all generations before us. .
    If any of that is true then where the hell is my flying car!!!!!

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