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  • Picked up this sad old milling vise

    Recently Black Forrest posted about a couple of nice vises including a beautifully hand crafted one and Tundra Twin Track showed off his
    massive 320 Lb mold makers vise. Here's one from the other end of the spectrum. I spotted this on Craigslist for $10:








    It was dirty, stiff, neglected, and a little abused. The only markings on it are a tag riveted to the back that says BFC and the number 100
    in the casting where the screw is held (visible in picture 2). There are a couple of dings on the ways but not enough to structurally
    compromise the vise.
    Continued in next post.

  • #2
    After a few hours of cleaning and deburring, shimming the clamps under the movable jaw, and installing new bolts for the jaws:








    The jaw now slides smoothly. I still plan on milling the tops of the jaws flat and making up a handle for the screw. I left the
    bolts holding the fixed jaw a bit long (hence the extra washers) so I can add a piece of L channel to serve as a handle so it's
    not as clumsy to lift.

    EDIT: Here is a thread that shows the handle I made for this vise:
    http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/thr...d-milling-vise
    Last edited by RichR; 01-03-2019, 09:57 AM.

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    • #3
      I like the oil break scraping on the ways, is that done with a pull scraper?, if so how?, new jaws and a drop of tinned rainbow as my metalwork teacher used to call hammerite and it's probably better than the typical Chinese fare
      Nice job
      Mark

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      • #4
        Hi boslab
        I don't know how the scraping was done, it was already there. It has JAPAN stamped on one of the ways, post #2 picture 3.

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        • #5
          Looks like someone has been using it for a bench vise and hacksawing something in it.
          I am always happy to see an old piece repaired, reused or repurposed.
          My frugal nature won't let me throw away anything useful if it can be salvaged.
          Good job!
          Bill
          I cut it off twice and it's still too short!

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          • #6
            Looks familiar!
            http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/thr...laza-Machinery

            The 100 means 100mm or about 4 inch.
            I have a swivel base too.
            I never found out anything else, I like the vise though.
            Mike

            My Dad always said, "If you want people to do things for you on the farm, you have to buy a machine they can sit on that does most of the work."

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            • #7
              Good save. An extra vise is always useful to have.
              "I am, and ever will be, a white-socks, pocket-protector, nerdy engineer -- born under the second law of thermodynamics, steeped in the steam tables, in love with free-body diagrams, transformed by Laplace, and propelled by compressible flow."

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              • #8
                Looks like a Japan copy of the old Brown and Sharpe vise design.
                I wonder if the leadscrew threads are worn thin or it is some kind
                of thread form the manufacturer invented.

                ---Doozer
                DZER

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RichR View Post
                  I still plan on milling the tops of the jaws flat and making up a handle for the screw.
                  Please do. It hurts just to look at them.

                  Hmm....
                  Pics...check.
                  Low price...check.
                  Only thing left is...you suck!
                  Definition: Racecar - a device that turns money into noise.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Doozer View Post
                    Looks like a Japan copy of the old Brown and Sharpe vise design.
                    I wonder if the leadscrew threads are worn thin or it is some kind
                    of thread form the manufacturer invented.
                    ---Doozer
                    You have eyes like a hawk, missed that completely, your right they appear to be Half the width they should be, it's not a double start thread is it?, or triple even, lol, I tried cutting one once but the tread indicator did not like me!


                    ]
                    Mark
                    Last edited by boslab; 12-05-2014, 09:54 AM. Reason: Messed up again!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Seastar View Post
                      Looks like someone has been using it for a bench vise and hacksawing something in it.
                      I am always happy to see an old piece repaired, reused or repurposed.
                      My frugal nature won't let me throw away anything useful if it can be salvaged.
                      Good job!
                      Bill
                      Since I don't like to see equipment treated this way so I thought I'd give it a second lease on life.
                      Last edited by RichR; 12-05-2014, 10:21 AM. Reason: Grammer

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                      • #12
                        I have one that looks just like it. I beleive its an ERON. Or mine at least has that stamped on it. Mines a much larger vise though.

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                        • #13
                          Hi Mike
                          Originally posted by MotorradMike View Post
                          Looks familiar!
                          http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/thr...laza-Machinery

                          The 100 means 100mm or about 4 inch.
                          I have a swivel base too.
                          I never found out anything else, I like the vise though.
                          Yours definitely looks like an Eron. Here is the Eron 125 I picked up a couple of years ago for $50 from Craigslist:

                          It has an oval metallic sticker on the back of the fixed jaw that says Eron that is probably missing on yours. Mine also came with the swivel though I don't
                          use it. You ask about the mark for setting the angle in your thread. On mine, there is a small adjustable plate with a mark screwed to the left side next to
                          the mounting ear on the side closer to the movable jaw.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by boslab View Post
                            You have eyes like a hawk, missed that completely, your right they appear to be Half the width they should be, it's not a double start thread is it?, or triple even, lol, I tried cutting one once but the tread indicator did not like me!]Mark
                            No, it's not a multi-start thread. The peaks are about 1/2 the width of the valleys.

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                            • #15
                              After looking at the threads, they appear to be original, because how could there be such exact wear over the full length of the screw.

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