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  • Thoughts on Enco 14x40 big bore lathe?

    I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on Enco's 14x40 big bore lathe? It is part number ks328-1312, and here is the link to it http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=KS328-1312 I will probably never own one but I do like to lust over it when the Enco book shows up. If you could use a 30% off coupon on it the price isn't to terribly bad so who knows. Anyone own one? It seems pretty beefy at 5000lbs and the 3.125" spindle bore would be useful. I think it would be a very useful lathe for a homeshop.

  • #2
    Personally, for a home shop I can't see it.

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    • #3
      The Jet GH-1440 is about the same machine and there's a lot of them on the used market. Great machine for the money, just be aware of the D1-8 spindle nose and how much more money (and heavier) any of the chucks, faceplates or collet closer heads would be.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PixMan View Post
        just be aware of the D1-8 spindle nose and how much more money (and heavier) any of the chucks, faceplates or collet closer heads would be.
        Yes, that would be a downfall.

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        • #5
          I have always wanted one of those because of the 3-1/8" spindle bore and the 9" cross slide travel. Most 14" lathes only have a 6 to 7" cross slide. That is not enough to really use the capacity, especially on a gap bed lathe when facing a large diameter.
          Kansas City area

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          • #6
            What work would you be running on it? Would think the small C-C distance might reduce its usefulness.

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            • #7
              I am just Dreaming about it, I don't have any actual jobs lined up that I "need" it for. I currently have a 12" swing lathe and have run into the swing just being a tad small. I think a 14x40 would be a perfect size for me. I know everyone has run into the spindle size being to small, this would more than make up for it. I think the big spindle size would make up for CC distance.

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              • #8
                Could hunt down something like an older L&S with a large spindle bore. You are in an area where used machine exist in quantity.

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                • #9
                  Every now and then I want a bigger bore in my 14x40 home lathe.. . but the D1-8 issues would discourage me. Much of my work is done on quality (bison set-tru) 6 inch chucks - can you even fit one to a D1-8 backing plate?

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                  • #10
                    If I ever wear the Pacemaker out I'll look at it

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                    • #11
                      Somewhere not long ago I saw a thread (?) warning that Enco does not apply the large discounts to the machines they sell. As that person said "it would be worth checking out".

                      I have the lighter version of this lathe and like it. It is not the same as running my older Clausing but it does get the job done.

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                      • #12
                        I bought one of the ubiquitous 14 x 40 lathes direct from the Sieg factory in China [ they do a blue and white industrial range ] but took advantage of a few of the options available.

                        Chose the 2 1/4" spindle bore which throws the mounting onto D1-5, something not very common here in the UK but had the sense to order four 6" backplates and two 8" backplates extra. Chose the 30" bed option as opposed to the 40" because of where it has to fit and I already have one 40" lathe. That choice was base purely on where it went, not cost as the saving was only $17.50 !! [ no typo ]
                        They usually come 240v single phase but ordered mine 440v 3 phase as can fit an inverter if needed. It was on the cards with a workshop move at one point after Gert died but now look to be settled here for the future so the three phase is a given.

                        Overall very pleased with it given that this thing came to me at just above cost and TBH it was a pittance, seen second hand Myfords going for much more but it has the usual Chinese niggles.

                        Many of these are based on the older UK Harrison M300 brand and once updated to current safety regs, they have issues.

                        The biggest is they fit spiral spring guards to the leadscrew and it's impossible to get a normal tool to touch the face plate or even close as there is no dead space for the spring to coil up. Easiest answer is to remove the springs, never yet had or used a lathe with a leadscrew guard so missing nothing.

                        Mine a metric machine is missing quite a few of the popular imperial threads in the gearbox but a quick work out with a spread sheet and an email to China and the 'missing' gears soon arrived.
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                        Sir John , Earl of Bligeport & Sudspumpwater. MBE [ Motor Bike Engineer ] Nottingham England.



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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lakeside53 View Post
                          but the D1-8 issues would discourage me. Much of my work is done on quality (bison set-tru) 6 inch chucks - can you even fit one to a D1-8 backing plate?
                          I don't know if you could mount a 6" or not. There are a couple of Bison set-tru's on ebay that say 8" with d1-8 mount, but 10" seems to be the most common smallest chuck for that mount. Anyone know what size chuck would be the smallest that would still be able to use the 3.125" spindle bore?

                          Originally posted by flylo View Post
                          If I ever wear the Pacemaker out I'll look at it
                          What is the spindle bore vs actual size of that machine? I know the P&W 16 (18.5" actual swing) had a pretty small spindle bore for the size of the machine. At least I thought it was. Without looking it up I am going to say around 2".

                          Originally posted by rock_breaker View Post
                          Somewhere not long ago I saw a thread (?) warning that Enco does not apply the large discounts to the machines they sell. As that person said "it would be worth checking out".
                          You could be correct, I have never tried to add machinery to an order when they were running a 30% off sale.

                          Originally posted by John Stevenson View Post
                          I bought one of the ubiquitous 14 x 40 lathes direct from the Sieg factory in China [ they do a blue and white industrial range ] but took advantage of a few of the options available.
                          I remember the unpacking thread on that lathe. How did you go about ordering direct? It is too bad they didn't put a d1-6 mount on it, they seem to be a lot more common.

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                          • #14
                            I have seen 30% off everything but with free UPS shipping not truck shipping. The Pacemaker spindle bore is just under 2", 54" between centers & 20" swing over the bed.

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                            • #15
                              I have the older Taiwan Jet version. Have needed the big 3.125 bore? Almost, I was able to make some parts of out 2.5" aluminum for a small job that didnt require all kinds of fiddling (I had to turn both ends down to 1" and it was 28" long)..What I REALLY appreciate about my machine is just how big and sturdy it is. Could I live without the big bore? Absolutely. But I really dont mind that I have it.

                              The big ass chucks are an issue... My 3 jaw is HEAVY and its a chore changing. I want a 4 jaw but havent looked for a decent priced one yet, but I suspect they are not many laying around...
                              Last edited by cuemaker; 01-31-2015, 02:50 PM. Reason: chuck part

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