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    so i'm looking through that site, and there are all kinds of my photos of projects on it, as well other guys here. wtf? I didn't give them permission, and they are selling advertise as a result of content so it commercial, not someones hobby.

    Any of you guys know whats going on with that site - they just go around stealing content? I don't want to petty but it feels wrong when some rips off you stuff for content and sells advertising. The do link back here so maybe its not totally a rip....but still, no one asked
    Last edited by Mcgyver; 09-09-2016, 09:10 PM.
    in Toronto Ontario - where are you?

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    I too have noticed different postings there made by names i reconized.

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    • #3
      "Welcome to the Internet." Sigh.
      "A machinist's (WHAP!) best friend (WHAP! WHAP!) is his hammer. (WHAP!)" - Fred Tanner, foreman, Lunenburg Foundry and Engineering machine shop, circa 1979

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      • #4
        I e-mailed the guy who runs it after I noticed my stuff going up there. He said they have an automated script or program that pulls stuff from various places and he seemed a very agreeable fellow. He offered to take down my stuff, but my only problem was that the photos were lacking descriptions of any kind. There was one set of photos I didn't want up there, only because it was an in-progress project I didn't want to let out of the bag yet. He took those photos down, I created a login to the site, and he transferred all my project photos to my account, and we updated all the descriptions. I personally don't have a problem with it but I completely understand those who do.
        Max
        http://joyofprecision.com/

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mcgyver View Post
          so i'm looking through that site, and there are all kinds of my photos of projects on it, as well other guys here. wtf? I didn't give them permission, and they are selling advertise as a result of content so it commercial, not someones hobby.

          Any of you guys know whats going on with that site - they just go around stealing content? I don't want to petty but it feels wrong when some rips off you stuff for content and sells advertising. The do link back here so maybe its not totally a rip....but still, no one asked
          Home made tools the owner's name is Jon. I am not 100% positive but i think he is also the owner of the Atlas/Craftsman Yahoo forum. I can find out more info if you like.

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          • #6
            Well, that is interesting. I see several things on there with my screen name on them and I was never contacted either.

            And, for curiosity, there's a place on the page where you can express an interest in plans. Five people have requested plans for one of my designs. This is something I designed, I've never posted plans, but the site does sell plans. So it's a commercial site, income from sales as well as advertising and it's using photos I've posted elsewhere without my permission or knowledge.

            Just seems a little screwy to me.
            .
            "People will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time they will pick themselves up and carry on" : Winston Churchill

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            • #7
              I don't have a dog in this fight, but it seems to me there is an issue here with intellectual property. I may be wrong but the material created is the property of the creator under various copyright laws, etc...

              Pete
              1973 SB 10K .
              BenchMaster mill.

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              • #8
                So I have a project on there too, and 16 people want plans for it. If I upload plans, does the site sell them? Do I get a profit? I am going to contact the site owner.

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                • #9
                  Hi,

                  Like it or not, if you turn something loose on the internet without specific sanctions, you should not be surprised to see it show up else where. If you don't want that, keep it off the web.

                  Dalee
                  If you think you understand what is going on, you haven't been paying attention.

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                  • #10
                    All to true.

                    Post it unprotected to the internet - if it is reasonably possible - and you have pretty well posted to the public domain.

                    I'd be very surprised if some (many?) here have not committed the same "sin/s".

                    "Let he who is without sin .......... "

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                    • #11
                      I too have seen the site. It has quite a few of my "shop made tools" on it. In fact, I think it was inspired by the shop made tools thread to make it easier to navigate the tools posted there.
                      My original plan was to do something similar but I am a machinist, not a web designer so it is probably a good thing in that regard.

                      Brian
                      OPEN EYES, OPEN EARS, OPEN MIND

                      THINK HARDER

                      BETTER TO HAVE TOOLS YOU DON'T NEED THAN TO NEED TOOLS YOU DON'T HAVE

                      MY NAME IS BRIAN AND I AM A TOOLOHOLIC

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                      • #12
                        Or perhaps a case or so of being "holier than thou"?

                        I hope not.

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                        • #13
                          A year or two ago, I began noticing some traffic to my web site from homemadetools.net. I went there, and found some twenty-odd entries on the site that had pics of projects on my site. The homemadetools site doesn't appear to actually store any of my images or other material, but just links to it. Some of the pages say that dozens of people have requested plans, but no one ever contacted me directly.

                          I personally find this site less bothersome than some others, like pinterest. I get a a lot of traffic from there.

                          Even worse are some of these image harvester sites that just have pages and pages of seemingly unrelated images. I get traffic from dozens of them. cacheimages.com is a typical one. I can't figure out their angle.

                          Ed
                          For just a little more, you can do it yourself!

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                          • #14
                            There really isn't much - if anything at all - that you can do about it - so just lie back down, make yourself comfortable, adjust to the inevitable and enjoy the ride.

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                            • #15
                              If pweople are requesting your plans create a login for the site, make a posting saying 'I got plans from XXXXXXX', knock out some plans and off you go. Don't have to be rip off prices, just a few cents. If he complains point out that he ripped off your content and send him an invoice. Once you have sent him and invoice for your content on his site you have implied contract terms to which he has to respond.

                              I don't know why people like plans for the most trivial things they should be able to make by looking at it but they do. Talked to a guy last night who had paid $25 for a stepper mount drawing that was just a box machined from solid with holes in it. Neatly drawn but contains less that 50c of content. Felt a bit sorry for the guy but he was oblivious to the fact that he had been ripped off.

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