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    August and up until now in September have been VERY slow months for me, work-wise.--(that's "real work" as in engineering design). After my big thresh in July to design and build the Rupnow Vertical engine, I haven't been too interested in playing in my machine shop. So---Out of boredom, I have been watching a lot of machining and related videos on YouTube. Last week on the 10th of Sept. I got a "pop-up" on my computer monitor saying I had used up 75% of my available internet for September. I immediately called my internet provider and asked how this could be, so early in the month. (I had 55 gigabytes available). It seems that YouTube videos eat up a tremendous amount of your available internet monthly allowance. I didn't know that. For $11 more a month I was able to up my internet monthly allowance to 120 gigabytes. I am a bit disappointed in this. I won't be so quick to click on Youtube videos to watch them from now on.---Brian
    Brian Rupnow

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    Yup, streaming video is the #1 cause of smart phone data overages. Sorry I cant help otherwise, never heard of an internet data limit here and I stream and download constantly.
    "I am, and ever will be, a white-socks, pocket-protector, nerdy engineer -- born under the second law of thermodynamics, steeped in the steam tables, in love with free-body diagrams, transformed by Laplace, and propelled by compressible flow."

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    • #3
      Your home internet provider limits amount of data? Thats like Adolf Hitler type of scary!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RB211 View Post
        Your home internet provider limits amount of data? Thats like Adolf Hitler type of scary!
        I thought that this was pretty well a standard practice. The more internet you use, then the more you pay for it. I don't think that it's looking at web pages that drives the usage up beyond limits,. It is more the act of uploading or downloading information (particularly video) that is the big user.
        Brian Rupnow

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        • #5
          Originally posted by brian Rupnow View Post
          I thought that this was pretty well a standard practice. The more internet you use, then the more you pay for it. ...
          Are you on a satellite internet service?
          Lynn (Huntsville, AL)

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          • #6
            You can reduce data usage dramatically by lowering the resolution of what you watch. Unless you're using a big-screen TV, you really don't need '1080p'. Try different settings until you find the lowest resolution you can still enjoy.
            Southwest Utah

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            • #7
              Remember how your browser would download the whole file so you got x amount of data to view one video? Now, if you do anything at all with the time slider, it throws away everything it had buffered on your machine and starts again from that point. And the tiny buffer always seems to empty before more data is "streamed". Streams flow, they don't spit. Probably trying to get just one more ad in your face.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by brian Rupnow View Post
                I thought that this was pretty well a standard practice. The more internet you use, then the more you pay for it. I don't think that it's looking at web pages that drives the usage up beyond limits,. It is more the act of uploading or downloading information (particularly video) that is the big user.
                Only with cell phones and satellite. Cable, DSL, Fiber, Copper t1/t3/dial-up, etc do not restrict amount of data. Pretty sure this would start a civil war in the USA.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RB211 View Post
                  Your home internet provider limits amount of data? Thats like Adolf Hitler type of scary!
                  you nailed it....that's communications and banking in Canada. Almost no competition, basically lucrative state granted franchises
                  in Toronto Ontario - where are you?

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                  • #10
                    My AT&T DSL provides 150 gig a month. I never even come close to that and have watched LOTS of videos a few months.
                    Why is having some limit so unreasonable? Should someone who uses a few meg a month pay the same as someone who has their connection maxed out 24/7 for the entire month?
                    Location: North Central Texas

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joel View Post
                      My AT&T DSL provides 150 gig a month. I never even come close to that and have watched LOTS of videos a few months.
                      Why is having some limit so unreasonable? Should someone who uses a few meg a month pay the same as someone who has their connection maxed out 24/7 for the entire month?
                      Because what you pay for your few megs a month, I get fiber into the home at 50mbps up and down that feeds many, many devices. I don't watch TV, I watch youTube, HBOgo, Netflix, Amazon Prime. iOS 10 came out, thats a gig per device, AppleOS Sierra is coming out on the 20th, thats probably a few gigs.
                      Theres competition where I live, I might switch back to cable and get the 100mbps up and down they are advertising for 35$ a month. Then switch back to Fiber when that deal is over. Limiting data would kill a big chunk of our economy.


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                      • #12
                        Actually I don't know anyone that doesn't have a monthly data limit for internet. Five years ago I had a 10 gig limit, then 3 years ago I upgraded to 25 gigs then last year my DSL provider automatically boosted me to 50 gigs. When I had a 10 gig limit I would go over once or twice a year, never with 25 gigs and roll over data and certainly no worries with 50 gig. But then again this is Alaska and we generally lag behind the Lower 48 states so it's understandable at least to me that we have data limits.

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                        • #13
                          you tube for the most part seems very low res vs say a DVD. I surprised you'd hit a cap with. I've got several people in the house with Netflix accounts (better res than you tube I'd guess) and haven't had a bandwidth cap issue.

                          How many you tube videos are you watching?
                          in Toronto Ontario - where are you?

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                          • #14
                            Maybe 10 or 12, at about 20 minute maximum each. I watched one really good one about the investment casting process that might have been 40 minutes.
                            Brian Rupnow

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RB211 View Post
                              Because what you pay for your few megs a month, I get fiber into the home at 50mbps up and down that feeds many, many devices. I don't watch TV, I watch youTube, HBOgo, Netflix, Amazon Prime. iOS 10 came out, thats a gig per device, AppleOS Sierra is coming out on the 20th, thats probably a few gigs.
                              Theres competition where I live, I might switch back to cable and get the 100mbps up and down they are advertising for 35$ a month. Then switch back to Fiber when that deal is over.
                              Curious. And how exactly would you know what I pay? That 150 gig cost's me $10 a month for the high speed DSL (slow by your apparent standards I would imagine, but page loads are essentially instant and it is faster than necessary to stream, so plenty fast for us). Seems like a bargain to me.

                              Your desire to use an enormous amount of bandwidth isn't my or anyone else's problem, nor should anyone else be expected pay for it, of course. That would be a stupid way to do business, so cost-for-use limits make sense to me.
                              I don't particularly care how much bandwidth you use or how much you pay. That is your business, and I only asked the 'limits' question in the event I was missing something. We have streamed and pulled metric tons of stuff off the web a few months, and have never maxed out, so I have a hard time believing anyone's world will end by having some limits. Brian had been getting by quite well with a third of that, as we generally do, and as I am sure many, many others also do. People sometimes have to show some restraint in life, or choose to pay more for their choice of playtime. It's really not that big of a deal.

                              FWIW, I find it easy to use less than 30 meg a month on my phone (OMG-only 30 meg!). That's how much I get for free (well, not free, it is included with the basic text plan at no additional charge), and I do the heavy lifting on the DSL and move it to my phone on rare occasion, and don't play with my phone all the time (it's not required to keep me amused with an entire physical universe readily available, and the actual necessities require little data). Our TV is an older computer with a dual tuner card (free TV and free DVR!) and some movie or TV show downloads or streams - we refuse to be any sort of a slave to it. There is some really good stuff to be found, but after all, it is only TV.

                              Originally posted by RB211 View Post
                              Limiting data would kill a big chunk of our economy.
                              Ahh, an answer.
                              Data IS limited and our economy seems to be doing OK despite it. Paying for what you use is very, very far from "Adolph Hitler scary".
                              Location: North Central Texas

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