Fire in and and recall of Samsung Galaxy Note7 mobilephones

[pinstripe]

Cheap chargers might have lower capacity or poor regulation, but I doubt they would have enough voltage or current to cause damage, and the phone should just refuse to charge and indicate an improper charger.

Even though this problem appears to be more about the phone than the charger, there was a case here where a woman was killed by a faulty charger. http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/faulty-usb...627-zsoc8.html

[pinstripe]

Many - for a variety or reasons - real and perceived - regard Telstra as being really "on the nose" with a lot of people but all that I can say is that their service has been - and continues to be - first class.

I'm not with Telstra these days, but when I was with them, their service was generally fine. It's a big company with thousands of employees. Sometimes you don't get perfect service, it happens with all companies.

Some Samsung android apps seem to be able to be installed on Apple iPhones as well - but can the data on the Samsung apps on Samsung phones be transferred/copied etc. to the Apple iPhones?

Some apps run on both platforms, but it's not the same binary (executable). Their applications are not compatible with one another. You will also find that you will need to pay for the apps again if you change from one to the other because they have separate app stores. Moving data could be tricky, but many of these mobile apps store their data in the cloud so it will transfer seamlessly.

Does Samsung have iPhones that still work OK and are serviced by Samsung? If that is/was so then those owners of those android phones etc. may have come through this OK.

Samsung makes hundreds of phone models. Most of them are fine. There are always some duds, but this is a particularly bad case. The problem isn't the number of failures, but rather the severity of the problem.

iPhone is Apple, and as such, designed properly.

Correct. You just have to remember to hold it properly, not bend it, not install the updates that brick it, not follow the GPS directions, and carry a fire extinguisher in case it catches fire.

It's a phone, not a religion. Both companies have had some problems. Pick the one you like, and use it.

[Mcgyver]

that you use your phone possibly in the shop or for work makes it on topic?

[John Stevenson]

Well, from my point of view as an airline pilot, well cargo pilot now, they should be treated as a potential hazard, if not on the airplane, then inside your house. I would think Samsung would refund or replace with a different model phone.

Last flight I was on about 3 weeks ago an announcement was made that all Note 7 owners must switch off completely and also let the cabin staff know they had one, even if it was hold baggage.

[Doozer]

This is off topic.
Smart phones are the devil in your pocket.
They are the scourge of society.
It is the golden cow worshiped by the masses.
Please stop posting about these sacred religious objects
that you worship with your servitude every hour.

-Doozer

[RB211]

I didn't care much for Apple until I started writing software for them and learned to appreciate the way they do things.


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[pinstripe]

Never looked into programming Apple products. It wouldn't surprise me if it was better organized than the Windows API! Apple does have a habit of breaking backwards compatibility though. Microsoft is doing it more often now too.

I find their UI frustrating/limiting, partially due to lack of experience. Just what you get used to. Neither is perfect.

[Mike Amick]

See'ins how we are leaning OT comparing phone OS's.

I started out and for many years used Iphones. Like the Mac's, they are very friendly
and great for new users.

The main problems I had ... and they may have fixed these to a degree.

1. The only way to maintain my song list, was to make changes in Itunes and then
sync the phone to Itunes and have it add and delete. You could not just go on
your phone and say delete this or that song. This was a huge error in design as
far as I was concerned.

2. Apple would NOT allow any application to close any other app. So a developer was
not allowed to create a program that would say ... close all the background apps that
were running ... and Apple did not have its own "background app closer" I am talking
about one button that closed them all.

3. If you were in an app and went past the page/option that you wanted .. there was no
back button. Some app creators were smart enough to include go-back options .. but
not very many. This drove me crazy .. and may have been the main reason to go to
Android ... I love being able to do this .

But I would never dis an iphone .. they are great phones

I use a Galaxy Edge now ..

[EddyCurr]

Last flight I was on about 3 weeks ago an announcement was made that all Note 7 owners must switch off completely and also let the cabin staff know they had one, even if it was hold baggage.

News today that effective noon today EDT (Sat 15, 2016), the Galaxy 7 is banned from flights in the US. Not allowed in the cabin or in checked baggage. Announcement from US Dept of Transportation "and other agencies" according to Reuters.

Reuters also has a report that Air Berlin and Singapore Airlines is following suit

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[danlb]

News today that effective noon today EDT (Sat 15, 2016), the Galaxy 7 is banned from flights in the US. Not allowed in the cabin or in checked baggage. Announcement from US Dept of Transportation "and other agencies" according to Reuters.

Reuters also has a report that Air Berlin and Singapore Airlines is following suit

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Please differentiate between the different models. The galaxy NOTE 7 is a different model than the Galaxy S7. They have different hardware in a different physical arrangement.

The Galaxy S7 is still considered safe as of this writing.

I don't wish to be too picky on this, but there's a possibility of inconveniencing people needlessly if they don't notice the difference.

Dan

[EddyCurr]

Please differentiate between the different models. The galaxy NOTE 7 is a different model than the Galaxy S7.

Fair comment.

If I had adhered to usual practice, I would have copied the title of the article and provided a link

U.S. bans Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphones from air travel
By David Shepardson and Diane Bartz
Reuters Sat Oct 15, 2016 | 2:19pm EDT

The thread IS about the Samsung Galaxy Note 7, while I wrote unspecifically about the Galaxy 7.

Mea Culpa on the grounds that I do not even own a cell ph, much less try to keep track of the myriad species, genus, family, order, class, phylum, kingdom, domain, etc of devices offered in the market.

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[oldtiffie]

An update - came in today.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3130189/mobile/samsung-discontinues-galaxy-note7-after-battery-debacle.html?idg_eid=b8ea39a52a6aef1351398d9264ae4450&token=%23tk.PCW_nlt_pcw_bestof_html_2016-10-14&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Best%20of%20PCWorld%202016-10-14&utm_term=pcw_bestof_html#tk.PCW_nlt_pcw_bestof_html_2016-10-14

[J Tiers]

Some folks at Samsung will have the heat on the hot seat turned up now.... That's gonna cost some money. Already has, no doubt.

[boslab]

Whilst banning air travel for these phones is laudable, it would seem to the phone isn't the problem, it would appear that the problem is the lithium (or whatever technology in use these days) battery, even the Dreamliner has suffered battery problems, I seem to remember them being grounded by the air authorities due to batteries catching fire?
I would see no problem sending a galaxy 7 by air if the culprit was not installed, I.e. battery?
It would seem that whilst these batteries can provide the power density needed for modern electronics that they are getting or got as close to the point where size is so compact that available materials are stretched to the limit.
I've heared of lithium batteries failing spectacularly in a range of products from aeroplanes to electronic cigarettes, the latter exploding in the users pocket, are they banned on aircraft, I suspect they should be.
I wouldent be suprised if samsungs competitors did a bit of lobbying to get them banned myself
I'd be in favour of only carrying things with lithium batteries in some kind of sealed enclosure in aircraft, if indeed they don't already.
Mark

[lakeside53]

The battery is not removable in the conventional sense.