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  • Should I have bought a smaller vise ?

    So I have this mill ,1979 go well Taiwan import . Might be a little over kill ,but I ran into an issue after a new purchase.i previously had a 3 inch milling vise and bought a 6 inch vise. With the new vise I'm losing about an inch and half of travel in the y . I'm thinking about milling off the front of the vise to give me about an inch more of travel .Does this sound like a stupid idea?anyome have any other ideas?PS it's a import vice


    Edit ended up cutting the vise now I have enough clearance
    Last edited by tbsrokks05; 03-19-2017, 01:39 PM.

  • #2
    I'n not one to be squeamish about modifying machinery.

    But, yeah. kinda.

    I'd just turn the %$#@! thing 90 deg after cutting off the long studs, and go with that.

    You are not getting an inch off that without messing things up. A half inch of rim, maybe.
    1601

    Keep eye on ball.
    Hashim Khan

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    • #3
      Yeah the studs are just temporary but yeah that seems to be a better idea

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      • #4
        I have essentially the same mill/drill, and that vise looks a lot like the one I bought from Enco a year or so back.



        If you don't need the swivel, you can remove it and gain an inch or so.
        http://pauleschoen.com/pix/PM08_P76_P54.png
        Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
        USA Maryland 21030

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        • #5
          That vise is too big for the machine. A 4 inch would be just right. If you don't want to buy another vise, turning it 90 degrees is next best.
          Kansas City area

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          • #6
            I chopped about an inch off.

            Originally posted by Toolguy View Post
            That vise is too big for the machine. A 4 inch would be just right. If you don't want to buy another vise, turning it 90 degrees is next best.
            Some years ago I bought a similar vice to use on my Busy Bee B0 48 mill. I soon found that the lip at the back( Ie the fixed Jaw edge) got in the way of giving me the travel I needed. I tried it at 90 degrees and found it " Unnatural". After a bit of totally unnecessary worry I bandsawed the lip off, squared it up on the mill, checked to see if there was any measurable distortion, there was not any. I have been using the vice virtually every day since, and it is still fairly square and straight ,within a thous on any test. Until I saw the posting I had totally forgotten about my modification. Hope this helps David Powell.

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            • #7
              The rim , yeah.

              Looked like an inch would cut into the jaws.
              1601

              Keep eye on ball.
              Hashim Khan

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              • #8
                dump the swivel and bolt the vise to the front slot.

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                • #9
                  If you clamp on the edge rather than the clamping slots you can position the vise wherever you want.
                  Last edited by adatesman; 03-16-2017, 05:22 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Silly, last I looked it's not against the law to have two vises.

                    Pun entirely unintentional!

                    Dave

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                    • #11
                      Buy a bigger mill, problem solved!

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                      • #12
                        I never cease to be amazed at how much you seem to know about items you have never seen. Maybe you could tell me the winning lottery number for this week.s 6 /49. I KNOW I chopped off about an inch of lip. There is a little of the lip left before the vice proper. I know because I went and had a look. Maybe my vice came from a different mould than the one in the photos, Regards David Powell.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by David Powell View Post
                          I never cease to be amazed at how much you seem to know about items you have never seen. Maybe you could tell me the winning lottery number for this week.s 6 /49. I KNOW I chopped off about an inch of lip. There is a little of the lip left before the vice proper. I know because I went and had a look. Maybe my vice came from a different mould than the one in the photos, Regards David Powell.
                          Hey, now..... take a chill pill.

                          There's a pic, so it's not like nobody can see what is meant.... it's right there.

                          All I said was it looked proportionally more like half an inch in what I SAW in the pic.... so I was surprised it was an inch. But if you took a full inch off, OK, you know what you cut off, I believe it.

                          Now, my question to you is: If the OP takes off an inch and a half, will he cut into the jaw, or not? Cuz the whole point of my comment is that it would not be a great idea to cut off part of the jaw.... especially when he can just turn the vise.
                          1601

                          Keep eye on ball.
                          Hashim Khan

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                          • #14
                            Bolting the vice to the front slots would cause it not to hit but I'd still have the issue on the work envolope here . There's a little over an inch of rim on the vise before getting to the back jaws if I do decided to cut it .

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                            • #15
                              I would like to have a bigger mill ,the Dro on my mill is supposed to be for a Bridgeport ,using the y as the x and z as the y but anyways having a bigger mill would be too big of a wiring issue

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