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  • Horizontal milling arbor has .013 runout - bushing, bearing, or new arbor?

    I made the arbor for the Malnar horizontal milling attachment that came with my Bridgeport lathe. Mr Bozo showed up... I didn't turn the arbor between centers. Instead, I turned and threaded the square/parallel part, flipped it around in the 4-jaw, dialed it in to less than .001 runout, and then turned the B&S #10 taper on the other end. I thought this would be good enough. Heh... When I put the thing in the B&S socket it shows about 0.013 total runout at the end far away from the socket/taper. Near the socket it shows less than 0.002 runout. So, it's bent or crooked or something.

    However, I am hoping that not all is lost. I can spin the ram around 180 degrees, and there is already half of an arbor support there. I will build the other half of the arbor support... The arbor is 1.249 dia, and about 8" from taper to thread. I put a 0.998" dia stub on the outboard end of the arbor to interface with the support

    So... my questions...

    Will the outboard arbor support remove enough of the wobble to give me a useable arbor?
    If YES:
    1a) Should I use a bearing? OR
    1b) Should I use a bronze bushing?
    if NO WAY IN HECK:
    2) Should I build an altar to Mr Bozo, sacrifice the arbor, then go turn a new one between centers while crying my heart out?
    if I DON'T KNOW:
    3) Is it a bad idea to try to see if it will work (risk/benefit analysis) ?

    Thanks for your help

    Dan
    Last edited by Dan_the_Chemist; 05-24-2017, 12:38 AM. Reason: edited for clarity

  • #2
    Save the one you made for some future project and make a new one but between centers this time.
    Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

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    • #3
      Good arbours are turned, heat treated and then finish ground between centres. Making one with a 4-jaw
      doesn't even get you close--as you now know...
      Keith
      __________________________
      Just one project too many--that's what finally got him...

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      • #4
        Don't let Mr BOZO turn this one
        Sorry couldn't resist, my Dad had the original Bozo's 1938 Caddy. Wich I'd have kept that one as it was documented.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LKeithR View Post
          Good arbours are turned, heat treated and then finish ground between centres. ...
          I'm sure that Stefan would agree. HOWEVER ... I've made horizontal mill arbors by simply turning Mystery Metal between centers and they did what I needed them to do.

          Bob

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          • #6
            Consider returning to the lathe to recut the taper. With only that much out of truth, you wouldn't remove much metal.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gary Paine View Post
              Consider returning to the lathe to recut the taper. With only that much out of truth, you wouldn't remove much metal.
              MARVELOUS idea... thank you !!!

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