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    Everyone has a HF engine hoist which tapers & the legs are on angles. Shop cranes have straight legs that are parallel so mod your engine hoist into a shop crane that the legs will go around a mill & weld or bolt together with nylocs or buy a shop crane. Paid $125 for the towable BlueBird

    Push forklift, these are 1000#cap to 2000#cap either 12V electric or a pump handle. Get the one that the legs move out so the forks will pick up pallets. Have a plate to fit & bolt to the forks. Have 3 never paid over $100

    Pipe round stock & Johnson bars, you can move heavy machines with simple tools.

    Pallet jack & come-a-long, winch or chain fall. You can load mills, lathes, & most machines with these & a drop gate trailer. Remember to block up the center under the drop gate & use plywood.

    Straps & chains, but 2" 10,000# straps & if you haul a mill put one from the head to the hitch or a solid point behind it in case an idiot pulls out in front of you.

    All this stuff together cost a couple hundred dollars but is useful for years & makes life so much safer & easier. Just some toughts.

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    Thanks for the advice Flylo.

    Is the "push forklift" the same as a pallet jack?
    At the end of the project, there is a profound difference between spare parts and left over parts.

    Location: SF East Bay.

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    • #3
      No it lifts 6', most have a 2000# cap. I read the post about moving the mini mill which would be great for moving something like the mini mill.

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      • #4
        Please understand I am not trying to be a smart aleck, but have you got any helpful hints for stairs?

        I see a bunch of discussion on moving "things" up or down stairs - dangerous - I know, but sometimes required.

        In my experience going down is easier due to gravity, but more dangerous (especially if you are standing under the load).

        Going up is safer, if you are standing above the load. I have even used a pick up and chains/straps so I don't have to be under the load and push it - not better just safer.

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        • #5
          They make stir climbers for moving safes upstairs. Maybe you can rent one of those?

          Dan
          At the end of the project, there is a profound difference between spare parts and left over parts.

          Location: SF East Bay.

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          • #6
            Going down we used to move safes as a sideline. Just screw 2x12s to the treads use good straps & hook to a vehicle & one drives slow while the other guides the load from above it in case of trouble. I have a old bank vault door to move to the basement & will put it on a drywall dolly or cart strapped on well & do the same way with a 2x4 with a U shaped rope thru a hole on both ends in front of the rear wheels so I can block the wheels from behind it just in case. It's a straight in shot so should go fine. Stair climbers are cool to use.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 6270 Productions View Post
              Please understand I am not trying to be a smart aleck, but have you got any helpful hints for stairs?

              I see a bunch of discussion on moving "things" up or down stairs - dangerous - I know, but sometimes required.

              In my experience going down is easier due to gravity, but more dangerous (especially if you are standing under the load).

              Going up is safer, if you are standing above the load. I have even used a pick up and chains/straps so I don't have to be under the load and push it - not better just safer.
              I built this for moving heavy cabinets up the stairs in our house. You won't be moving a heavy mill or lathe with it for sure but for just a few hundred pounds it works great.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5K4ygu3alI
              Location: The Black Forest in Germany

              How to become a millionaire: Start out with 10 million and take up machining as a hobby!

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              • #8
                Flylo,

                Are you seriously telling us that you don't have one of these yet: https://j.gifs.com/7L3Py1.gif

                What's the world coming to?

                Ian
                All of the gear, no idea...

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                • #9
                  I wish I had place where to use engine hoist or pallet jack

                  Location: Helsinki, Finland, Europe

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by flylo View Post
                    Going down we used to move safes as a sideline. Just screw 2x12s to the treads use good straps & hook to a vehicle & one drives slow while the other guides the load from above it in case of trouble. I have a old bank vault door to move to the basement & will put it on a drywall dolly or cart strapped on well & do the same way with a 2x4 with a U shaped rope thru a hole on both ends in front of the rear wheels so I can block the wheels from behind it just in case. It's a straight in shot so should go fine. Stair climbers are cool to use.
                    That is the way I have done it. I was just hoping there was some "magic" way of doing it that I did not know about.

                    I agree - going down is much easier than going up.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by danlb View Post
                      They make stir climbers for moving safes upstairs. Maybe you can rent one of those?

                      Dan

                      I have seen stair climbers before. There aren't any available locally to be found.

                      It is tough out here in the "sticks". We just discovered the wheel a couple of months ago.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Black Forest View Post
                        I built this for moving heavy cabinets up the stairs in our house. You won't be moving a heavy mill or lathe with it for sure but for just a few hundred pounds it works great.
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5K4ygu3alI
                        I "cruise" many different type of forums. Sometimes I forget which type I am on.

                        "I built this . . . "

                        That is impressive! We don't talk about that sort of things on the military collectable, military vehicle, gun, woodworking (well, maybe the woodworking, but not like this) forums.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MattiJ View Post
                          I wish I had place where to use engine hoist or pallet jack

                          The good news is - that will move easier across the snow than it will the dirt.

                          The bad news is - that is snow.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ian B View Post
                            Flylo,

                            Are you seriously telling us that you don't have one of these yet: https://j.gifs.com/7L3Py1.gif

                            What's the world coming to?

                            Ian
                            I have 3 forklifts & have moved sideways on ice just not on purpose. Gotta look for one of those.

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                            • #15
                              Flylo you forgot the most important and most expensive:' Larger shop to house all the stuff that helps you move stuff around the too small shop". Or just pack in so much crap, nothing can move.

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