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  • #16
    Your advice is good BEFORE THE FACT.

    Once it is done, it is what it is, and most organizations will not change back without a fight by the folks who are "fully invested" in it.

    Actually changing to something else is reserved for cases where the new version is too nasty to deal with, since you won't even know you like an alternative until and unless you learn the alternative program, which was what you were trying to avoid needing to do to begin with.

    In this case, it is just the "we are now forcing you to waste an hour finding all the stuff we moved without telling you we were going to" deal. Not necessarily the change, but how it was implemented.
    CNC machines only go through the motions

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    • #17
      I keep my favorite urls in a file called mystuff.html
      <ol>
      <li><a href="http://foo.bar.com" target="_blank">foo.bar</a>
      ...
      </ol>

      Made it my home page
      And never had a problem with upgrades or browser versions since when Berners-Lee was a clever sysadmin at CERN
      :-)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by J Tiers View Post
        The name is different in MSW, IIRC it is "bookmarks.htm".

        OK.
        I think it is called "places.sqlite" in windows, refer here for the path:
        https://superuser.com/questions/1119...atabase#436077

        Also, if you see a file in the same dir called "places.sqlite-journal", it will cause the sqlite db to be locked.
        Normally the application that accessed the db is supposed to delete this file when access is finished, so it can be accessed again.
        I have seen this problem where the application closed unexpectedly and it is cured by deleting the -journal
        See here for example :
        https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...iles-in-sqlite

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        • #19
          I think you can get the 52.4.1ESR version here:https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.4.1esr/
          It allows you to keep your add-ons/plug-ins, and operates on a separate update channel so as to not screw you up for at least a year. Here is a link to the 32 bit .zip file: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/....win32.sdk.zip, the 64 bit version is:https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/....win64.sdk.zip
          And there is more info here:https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo.../releasenotes/
          Last edited by chipmaker4130; 11-14-2017, 03:50 PM.
          Southwest Utah

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          • #20
            Just use telnet and completely eliminate the bothersome feature bloat issue.

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            • #21
              Mine just updated so I a had a bit of a look around.
              Everything appears to be still there, just in different places and accessed a little differently.
              I like some of the new features. It will take a bit of getting used to.
              As they say it it completely new.
              Larry - west coast of Canada

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              • #22
                In other blogs they notified me that Today was the date of release. I went and backed up my bookmarks as usual, just in case. When the upgrade notice came today, they asked IF I wanted to upgrade. You have a choice. You had to click on the "download" button to start the process. Having backed up my bookmarks, I was prepared and I switched. Yes the top looks a little different but the bookmarks are ALL still there. I have not checked each bookmark for it's contents, again I can reload from my back up if I need to. Again you had a choice, I even could have loaded a beta version two weeks ago but I had no need then. Sorry for your loss, but go back to your back up bookmarks and relaod.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by dbq49er View Post
                  In other blogs they notified me that Today was the date of release. I went and backed up my bookmarks as usual, just in case. When the upgrade notice came today, they asked IF I wanted to upgrade. You have a choice. You had to click on the "download" button to start the process. Having backed up my bookmarks, I was prepared and I switched. Yes the top looks a little different but the bookmarks are ALL still there. I have not checked each bookmark for it's contents, again I can reload from my back up if I need to. Again you had a choice, I even could have loaded a beta version two weeks ago but I had no need then. Sorry for your loss, but go back to your back up bookmarks and relaod.
                  NO there was NO CHOICE. You probably had the "ask first" set, which I USED to have set, apparently, but not this time. All I got was the notice of "wait a bit we are updating". One of the recent updates reset my choices. I set it back to that, but the horse was already out the door.

                  As I said, I do not think they are REALLY GONE, but they have changed the access , and maybe the icon, so I have only found a few of the regular things so far.

                  In any case, even if you had the choice, you would not know in advance what it was going to do. THAT is the issue.... Give a warning that things are gonna be way different, and that you may want to wait to update if you need to do something now.

                  The worst thing about it was that I was using the little tablet, and it is just a hair too small to be easy to use to begin with, so with some of the new stuff, I just could not finger-select it, and did not have a stylus pen handy (not that they work that well).

                  On the big laptop, it was easier to work with, and that's how I found some of the stuff.
                  CNC machines only go through the motions

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                  • #24
                    I just updated mine,a Windows7 Professional 64bit desktop, and everything works fine so far. Some things have been moved, most notable the "home" key in the toolbar, and the tabs have a different look. They are now black with white script. The bookmarks are all there, only change is in the appearance of the small folder icons.

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                    • #25
                      Embedded youtube video's are messed up. Ones from youtube directly play fine.
                      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIF...7S66kX1s8rd0qA

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by J Tiers View Post
                        NO there was NO CHOICE. You probably had the "ask first" set, which I USED to have set, apparently, but not this time. All I got was the notice of "wait a bit we are updating". One of the recent updates reset my choices. I set it back to that, but the horse was already out the door.

                        As I said, I do not think they are REALLY GONE, but they have changed the access , and maybe the icon, so I have only found a few of the regular things so far.

                        In any case, even if you had the choice, you would not know in advance what it was going to do. THAT is the issue.... Give a warning that things are gonna be way different, and that you may want to wait to update if you need to do something now.

                        The worst thing about it was that I was using the little tablet, and it is just a hair too small to be easy to use to begin with, so with some of the new stuff, I just could not finger-select it, and did not have a stylus pen handy (not that they work that well).

                        On the big laptop, it was easier to work with, and that's how I found some of the stuff.
                        Don't tell me NO! I got an email from Firefox stating I could upgrade now. And you read the rest already. No preferences settings nothing. It is my story and I am sticking to it!!

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                        • #27
                          Jerry, it's easy to roll back to a previous version of FF.
                          https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...ion-of-firefox

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by metalmagpie View Post
                            Jerry, it's easy to roll back to a previous version of FF.
                            https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...ion-of-firefox
                            But I don't need to.....

                            I am mostly irritated because they did not tell me they were going to really tear up the pea patch. And their prior update had evidently turned off the "ask first" selection

                            I've let them update before no issues, and it has always been usable. This time, they changed so much, plus I was really wanting to get something dealt with and not screw with a new version, nor even with rolling it back.....
                            CNC machines only go through the motions

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                            • #29
                              Not for Jerry, but for those who are concerned about future versions of Firefox, you can read the release notes before they release the newest versinons. Just go to https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/releases/ and check out the "changenotes".

                              Dan
                              At the end of the project, there is a profound difference between spare parts and left over parts.

                              Location: SF East Bay.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by danlb View Post
                                Not for Jerry, but for those who are concerned about future versions of Firefox, you can read the release notes before they release the newest versinons. Just go to https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/releases/ and check out the "changenotes".

                                Dan
                                57, the last one on the list, is the current version, and is the last set of info available about any new releases. Not surprising, as this IS the new release, and this was "zero day" for it. So there is no newer one in the offing. At least not until the inevitable set of patches come out, as they did twice for V56. There are some "unresolved issues" listed, but they are of limited scope.

                                How long in advance do they put those up? I have no idea, and, frankly, it makes little difference, except they DID say they had revamped the interface to a "clean, modern interface". That's tech talk for "we changed everything, and probably hid the stuff you are looking for"......
                                CNC machines only go through the motions

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