Info on this tool

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • gambler
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1093

    Info on this tool

    What is this, and how do you use it?
    san jose, ca. usa
  • gzig5
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 1232

    #2
    Which one? The stuff in the foreground looks like the start of a 5C collet block and collet. The thing behind that is a surface gage, used on a granite plate or machine for measuring and transferring marking and such.

    Comment

    • BCRider
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2015
      • 11600

      #3
      There's a whole lot of stuff in that picture that could be called tools. Which one are you asking about? The funky 5c collet with no splits? The funky looking holder? the height gauge just behind them?
      Chilliwack BC, Canada

      Comment

      • gambler
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 1093

        #4
        Originally posted by BCRider View Post
        There's a whole lot of stuff in that picture that could be called tools. Which one are you asking about? The funky 5c collet with no splits? The funky looking holder? the height gauge just behind them?
        The collet thing
        san jose, ca. usa

        Comment

        • gambler
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 1093

          #5
          Originally posted by gambler View Post
          The collet thing
          Now that you mention it, the surface gauge has 4 pins that slide down, what are those for?
          san jose, ca. usa

          Comment

          • BCRider
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2015
            • 11600

            #6
            I believe the pins are to allow the gauge to slide along an edge. Use any two that do the job for your needs of the moment.

            The solid collet is a stumper though. The surface finish is such that it appears to be a shop made collet. So it is very likely just the turned portion with threading to allow it to be put into the collet chuck and drilled then bored to suit and finally the splits would be cut. Or it may be that it would be drilled and threaded to take a threaded stud to hold parts with a thread already in them for additional shaping? As it sits now it's clearly not completed so it could be whatever you want it to be that starts with that shape.
            Chilliwack BC, Canada

            Comment

            • Toolguy
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 6674

              #7
              The pins on the surface gage can be extended down to follow an edge or a slot to make a parallel mark. The 5C collet thing looks like aluminum. It can be used to make an emergency (custom) collet out of. The hollow piece in the middle looks like a collet block. The facets on the bottom can be used for indexing a part in various increments. The nut on the right side would be used to tighten the collet in the collet block.

              BCRider types faster than me...
              Kansas City area

              Comment

              • RichR
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 2756

                #8
                Maybe it's just the photo, but compared to the body, that collet blanks taper seems to have a pretty nice finish. Maybe it's meant to be blued up
                for checking a mating taper.
                Location: Long Island, N.Y.

                Comment

                • gambler
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1093

                  #9
                  the three pieces screw together, 5 c collets fit inside. it seems to have too many facets to fit a vise.
                  san jose, ca. usa

                  Comment

                  • EddyCurr
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 3471

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gambler View Post
                    the three pieces screw together, 5 c collets fit inside. it seems to have too many facets to fit a vise.
                    Appears to be an even number of sides, twelve in total.

                    My vote is that it is a shop-built fixture for indexing in 30° increments.

                    (Or it fits into a 12 point socket for some reason.)


                    Edit: 30° degree increments, not 60°
                    Last edited by EddyCurr; 03-12-2018, 03:29 PM.

                    Comment

                    • 754
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 4797

                      #11
                      Say for example you have a piece of 1/2 in plate with a scribe line on it. You havevrough sawn it. Now you want to clamp to table and finish mill to the line. Use the pins on height guage to catch edge of table or T slot, then tilt the arm and scribe to pick up your layout line. You piece is lightly clamp, tap it around till scribe follows line, then clamp and mill.
                      Same thing in the vise, have your layout line above the jaws, then move it till scribe follows the line, clamp and mill.

                      Comment

                      • gambler
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1093

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 754 View Post
                        Say for example you have a piece of 1/2 in plate with a scribe line on it. You havevrough sawn it. Now you want to clamp to table and finish mill to the line. Use the pins on height guage to catch edge of table or T slot, then tilt the arm and scribe to pick up your layout line. You piece is lightly clamp, tap it around till scribe follows line, then clamp and mill.
                        Same thing in the vise, have your layout line above the jaws, then move it till scribe follows the line, clamp and mill.
                        never thought of that use, thanks.
                        san jose, ca. usa

                        Comment

                        • JoeLee
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10873

                          #13
                          Probably some high school kids shop project. A 5C collett and block.

                          JL..............

                          Comment

                          • reggie_obe
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 4542

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BCRider View Post
                            The solid collet is a stumper though. The surface finish is such that it appears to be a shop made collet. e.
                            The "color" makes me think it's aluminum.

                            Comment

                            • 754
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 4797

                              #15
                              If I have to cut a Morse taper stub, I usually cut an extra or two for future use, better use of setting a taper.
                              Run a few chalk lines on the taper, then twist 15 degrees back and forth, see if the taper is accurate.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X