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  • Sherline, Logan, Southbend, Shedon, Atlas... Great hobby Lathes,

    Many others I suspect?

    Pick and choose.

    What is Your perfect HSM lathe?? JR

    Ahh.. Sheldon.
    Last edited by JRouche; 10-15-2018, 01:58 AM.
    My old yahoo group. Bridgeport Mill Group

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...port_mill/info

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    For me it is the lathe that is operational. JR
    My old yahoo group. Bridgeport Mill Group

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...port_mill/info

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    • #3
      Clearly a 10EE. That would satisfy most all of my wants in the 24" length category.

      Most of the rest would be handled by adding a 36" Bullard

      Those other brands are not all "hobby"......

      Atlas of course truly IS "hobby".

      But I bought a mill from an operating screw machine shop..... filled with manual screw machines, every one of them a Logan. Browne and Sharp used to make tooling specifically FOR Logan. Logan, aside from the Wards lathes, was sold into the same markets as SB, Sheldon,

      Sheldon was never really "hobby", they were more in the area of Clausing and above. Southbend sold into the repair market for decades, until that sort of repair became a thing of the past.

      Sherline? Hard to say.... used by watch and clock repair folks, factories making small precision parts, etc.

      I suppose every one of the list would be described by some hereas "mere toys"..... But we have already disposed of that issue.
      1601

      Keep eye on ball.
      Hashim Khan

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      • #4
        I wish that I could say. I've used several of the SIEG models, and looked at several others but that hardly makes me an expert.

        I find that my 7x12 has some features that I really like. The variable speed motor is nice, so I'd like that on whatever would replace it. The plainback mount system (three screws through the spindle flange) sort of sucks compared to a camlock D-1 but it does not spin off when in reverse, so it's a little better than a threaded spindle nose. I like that I can reverse the motor separately from the change gear train so it can cut left hand threads, cut on the front or back, etc. I'd want that on the new one too. The chucks are 3, 4 and 5 inch, so they are very manageable. I like the fact that I don't need a crane to swap chucks. I also like the cam operated tailstock lock.

        The 9x20 has a few features that I really like. The "fine power feed" is quite handy, and I'd like to have one for the cross feed also. The QC gear box is only one stage (9 threads) , so I'd prefer a Norton style two stage gearbox (9 x 4 or more threads) so that gear changes are even fewer. I really like the versatility of the cross-slide with T-slots just in case I ever need to mount a second tool post, do some milling or some line boring. So the ideal would include power crossfeed, longitudinal feed, multi stage QCGB and T-slots.

        Hmmm. What else would I want. Since it's a small shop, I would want it to be moveable. My 7x12 is bolted to a bench. The 9x20 is on the OEM stand which is on a (ducking) mover's 4 wheel furniture dolly. I'd want it to be somehow movable so that I could move things past it once in a blue moon.

        So there's the simple list. Variable speed spindle. Easy on/off chuck. Chucks less than 20 lbs for smaller stuff. Chuck that does not spin off. Dual stage QCGB. Power feeds in all axis. Versatility from t-slots on the cross slide. Reversable motor and reversable gear train. Tailstock cam-lock.

        I did not include the easily added options. A QCTP is nice, as are rests, carriage stops and locks.

        Dan
        At the end of the project, there is a profound difference between spare parts and extra parts.

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        • #5
          Smart & Brown
          Harrison L5
          Colchester Chipmaster
          Colchester roundhead Student
          Colchester Bantam
          CEV copy of a Monarch 10EE
          Hardinge
          ........not a Myford...........

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          • #6
            Originally posted by thaiguzzi View Post
            ........not a Myford...........
            I only have a Myford :-(

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            • #7
              This would be my perfect HSM lathe: http://www.grizzly.com/products/Griz...ad-Lathe/G0709

              In the meantime, I'm saddled with the 1939 12x36 Atlas/Craftsman Deluxe I restored about 13-14 years ago. It's done everything I've needed except threading. The change gears are such a PIA, I use taps and dies.

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              • #8
                I’m more concerned finding enough large hobby budget and garage ;P

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=CCWKen;1199238]This would be my perfect HSM lathe: http://www.grizzly.com/products/Griz...ad-Lathe/G0709


                  I bought one about three months ago. Happy with the lathe, unhappy with the light duty steady rest. And the under engineering with the taper attachment.
                  The attachment is fine but I have to modify the splash guard to get full travel of the carriage. That should have caught at the factory.

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                  • #10
                    Sheldon 11" with the long bed or a Hendy 14 or 16" geared head.

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                    • #11
                      Hardinge HLV or Monarch 10EE
                      It's all mind over matter.
                      If you don't mind, it don't matter.

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                      • #12
                        Are you talking about actual hobby lathes ie produced to a low budget to be used at home or ex industrial machines that are small enough to be considered at home where home is a small house in the suburbs not a farm with a series of barns and sheds the size of a small industrial estate.
                        The 10EE mentioned above was copied in the CVA in the UK. The CVA has two very bad features - the SCGB only covers half the range and needs a gear change around 22tpi I think which is daft. The box also does not do metric.
                        The best small ex industrial not common amongst UK hobbyists, always assuming not worn out, is the Harrison M300 as it is 12 in, slightly heavier ways than equivalent far eastern but crucially does imperial and most metric threads all in the box. (the slightly smaller M250 does not). Some Colchesters, 600 group, logan? do as well.

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                        • #13
                          Sieg is "hobby grade" for sure, but would suggest they are more of a kit that requires "fitting" by the end user. I think the Taig lathe is right up there with Sherline but with a larger work envelope but fewer thrills. South Bend 9" lathes are nothing special but they work without any modifications needed and are reasonably rigid.
                          The ultimate lathe? I don't know, I have yet to use one, but Monarch is probably the closest. I just need hands on experience with one to tell you yay or nay.

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                          • #14
                            I've been using my EMCO Maximat V-10P for over 40 years, and I am very pleased with the quality,
                            and performance.
                            Larry

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                            • #15
                              I just couldn't pick one so ended with many.....a DSG, 10ee, Maximat 10, Holbrook B8, Rivett 608 2 Schaublin 70's, Pultra, Unimat 3, Levin and 3 watchmakers lathes (boley, boley & linein and Rivett). There is more, but thats the core that will likely stay. I'd add a late model HLV if one came up as the 10ee isn't yet running, part way through reconditioning and it would be refreshing to get a 911 turbo and not have to rebuild the bloody motor before taking it out on a windy road. For sure you don't need that many and building the shop up has become a bit of a hobby unto itself, but each lathe has its unique merits and I get great pleasure from using really well made machines in great condition
                              Last edited by Mcgyver; 10-15-2018, 12:42 PM.
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