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  • Lesson/WARNING Of The Day: Mahr Millimess Indicator

    While playing around, measuring my 1-2-3 blocks after stoning them, I decided to lubricate my Mahr Millimess indicator. It is about 40 or more years old and it tends to stick when it is stored. It would work after holding the plunger down for a minute or two but the next time it would stick again. So I opened it up and added just a fraction of a drop of light oil at the jeweled bearings and wiped off the excess. I hope that was the correct thing to do. I will find out tomorrow when I test it after sitting overnight.

    But then I noticed my oily fingerprints on the face after I replaced it so I decided to clean it, with alcohol. That was a mistake. Who would have figured that those 1950s or 1960s Germans would have printed the face with ink that would dissolve in alcohol. Well, they did. I did notice that the markings were being cleaned off before any of the scale markings were erased, but some of the text was gone.

    So, be warned. If you open up a Mahr Millimess indicator, DO NOT CLEAN THE FACE WITH ALCOHOL. Perhaps this is well known, but I certainly did not know it. I wonder if they still use such a fragile ink. And I wonder if other manufacturers of indicators do anything like this.
    Last edited by Paul Alciatore; 03-24-2019, 04:59 AM.
    Paul A.
    Golden Triangle, SE Texas

    And if you look REAL close at an analog signal,
    You will find that it has discrete steps.

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    OUCH thats gotta hurt.... those Mahr indicators are *not* cheap, and they are very very good... I have a policy of not "cleaning up" old indicators. I send them into Long Island Indicator because I paid some good money for my Compac and Federal indicators. I learned the hard way using CRC Brakleen on a junk indicator -- it removed *everything* that wasn't metal.... BTW yes, most inks are based in either water or alcohol, they usually use alcohol when they need a fine line because the way it wets out allows a very fine mark. (former fine art student....)
    Last edited by nickel-city-fab; 03-24-2019, 09:28 AM.
    25 miles north of Buffalo NY, USA

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    • #3
      Note to Paul: Drink the alcohol and don't clean up anything. The more alcohol you drink the cleaner your shop will seem!
      Location: The Black Forest in Germany

      How to become a millionaire: Start out with 10 million and take up machining as a hobby!

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      • #4
        When I needed to clean a dial from an indicator, I always played safe and very gently used a weak detergent solution in luke warm water. Even that was slightly risky at times.
        As for oil, then getting proper watch oil is recommended, applied with a long needle.
        Last edited by old mart; 03-24-2019, 09:28 AM.

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        • #5
          Alcohol is a good way to tell the difference between enamel and latex.

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          • #6
            I get some pretty crusty and dirty old indicators from work
            that QC is throwing out. Some very nasty from coolant mist
            in the shop. One thing I have found to clean the faces of the
            indicators without hurting the clear plastic, is Hoppes No.9
            gun cleaning solvent. I have cleaned many dial indicators
            with it, some so crusted with brown film on the face that you
            can't see the numbers any more. Never did it mess with the
            plastic. Never made them haze or anything. But it does clean
            the goo off very well. Just thought I would mention this if
            it can help.

            --Doozer
            DZER

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Doozer View Post
              I get some pretty crusty and dirty old indicators from work
              that QC is throwing out. Some very nasty from coolant mist
              in the shop. One thing I have found to clean the faces of the
              indicators without hurting the clear plastic, is Hoppes No.9
              gun cleaning solvent. I have cleaned many dial indicators
              with it, some so crusted with brown film on the face that you
              can't see the numbers any more. Never did it mess with the
              plastic. Never made them haze or anything. But it does clean
              the goo off very well. Just thought I would mention this if
              it can help.

              --Doozer
              I'm a bit confused. Do you use it on the dial (scale) itself or on the lens?

              Mahr Federal lens can be easily and safely cleaned by rubbing alcohol, but I never tried (or had a need) to clean the printed scale.
              Mike
              WI/IL border, USA

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