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    It's about time to haul 6 or 7 bundles of shingles up onto the porch roof to finish the roofing job. They are about 80-100 pounds each and more than I can handle, and it would also be a back-breaking job for my friend who is doing the work. So I thought I might build a dolly that can ride on the rails of my 32 foot extension ladder.





    Some short video clips:

    http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/hous..._Lift_5403.AVI

    http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/hous..._Lift_5404.AVI

    We will be moving the shingles in the next couple of days, and I'll probably make a YouTube video with more details.

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    There are several YouTube videos of other ideas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SGR9VShNg0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDdrs2yFIU0

    Commercially available lifts are $1000 and up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlBV5mpOLJ4

    Here is an invention for using a drill to extend a ladder. Probably not really needed...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciVsTH2FxfU
    http://pauleschoen.com/pix/PM08_P76_P54.png
    Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
    USA Maryland 21030

  • #2
    There was a video on the internets of a group of guys using a simple lever on a pivot to quickly get shingles up on the roof. One guy would attach the shingles to the end of the lever, other guy push down on his end of the lever and pivot the end to the roof line, another guy on the roof detached the shingles. Took all of maybe 3 seconds to get a bundle on the roof.

    It was a 3rd world country kind of video, seemingly impossible to find again.
    Andy

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    • #3
      Paul--That's a great idea. I like it.---Brian
      Brian Rupnow

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PStechPaul View Post
        They are about 80-100 pounds each and more than I can handle, and it would also be a back-breaking job for my friend who is doing the work.
        nice solution. I can remember doing that as a kid, one of the those 'better stay in school' jobs. Nice to flash back to a memory like that, but I hear you, no more shingle bundles for this guy either.
        .

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        • #5
          I did it the hard way 13 years ago, when I was a young man of 53.... on my shoulder straight up the sides of 3 high scaffold sections, about 40 bundles over a week. Next time I'll pay for rooftop placement, 'cos if it lasts the 30 year rating, I'll be 83

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          • #6
            We had a power hoist when we did my roof last fall. Still had to run a couple bundles up the ladder on the shoulder though to finish it off. Not a job I'd want to do everyday, but not bad for a couple few bundles. I'm sure my view on that will be different when I have to do it again 20 years. I'll probably just lift my wallet for that one though.

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            • #7
              Lady roofer did my roof. Split each bundle in half or thirds and carried them up in as needed.
              Don't forget ice and water shield.

              Let's see the DIY ladder lift work with an equivalent weight and at an appropriate angle. I don't think a Ryobi drill be be up to the task.

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              • #8
                Bingo! Hate to be such a Luddite but a bundle weighs 75 lbs so you carry up half (38 lbs) over your shoulder at a time. By the time you built a shingle bundle carrier you could have all of them on the roof.

                Steve

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                • #9
                  https://quadcities.craigslist.org/tl...905924523.html

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                  • #10
                    My buddy John had to work for his landlord this morning, and now it is starting to rain, which might continue for a couple days. At least the roofing felt is now down, but I noticed a problem:



                    Apparently John has never done a hip roof, and I wasn't watching him closely as he installed the roofing felt. So now the choices may be:

                    1. Add more felt on the sides, which will just make a double layer.
                    2. Trim the edges along the hip line and remove the excess, and then
                    2a. Re-use the trimmed pieces if possible, and/or
                    2b: Cut new pieces for the sides

                    The Ryobi drill is a fairly powerful 3-speed version, and the winch has a high ratio worm drive. But if it proves to have insufficient torque, I have a big 1/2" corded drill, or I can replace the hand crank.
                    http://pauleschoen.com/pix/PM08_P76_P54.png
                    Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
                    USA Maryland 21030

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                    • #11
                      The shortest and fastest path to success is to read (or watch) and follow the directions.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIyjECFK4Uc

                      Since your guy is a beginner I would strongly suggest slipping a small piece of plywood under the shingles when cutting so he doesn't cut all the way through the felt.

                      Steve
                      Last edited by SteveF; 06-09-2019, 02:31 PM.

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                      • #12
                        I'll have him watch some videos when he comes by around 4:00 PM:


                        (GAF video on membrane or felt installation on hips)

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQPEEtWGKU (Fairly complete drip edge and shingle install)

                        I have read conflicting opinions on where and how to install the drip edges. Some say install it directly on the sheathing, some say install over the roofing felt, and some say it depends on whether it is an eave end or gable end. The hip roof has all eaves.
                        Last edited by PStechPaul; 06-09-2019, 03:10 PM.
                        http://pauleschoen.com/pix/PM08_P76_P54.png
                        Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
                        USA Maryland 21030

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                        • #13
                          If you're going to need more than 16' of ladder, i.e., if you'll need to extend your ladder, you'll need someway to handle the transition from 1 section to the other. When I made mine, I made a little ramp-like piece for each rail.

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                          • #14
                            Success!


                            Video clips:

                            http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/hous..._Lift_5410.AVI (Lifting one bundle using cordless drill)

                            http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/hous...I(Transferring bundle to roof)

                            The battery ran out of juice after a couple lift cycles, so I used the corded drill to complete the job:

                            http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/hous..._Lift_5412.AVI (returning unloaded dolly to ground)

                            http://enginuitysystems.com/pix/house/Tibbs_5413.AVI (Bonus video of Mr Tibbs)
                            http://pauleschoen.com/pix/PM08_P76_P54.png
                            Paul , P S Technology, Inc. and MrTibbs
                            USA Maryland 21030

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                            • #15
                              I have read conflicting opinions on where and how to install the drip edges. Some say install it directly on the sheathing, some say install over the roofing felt, and some say it depends on whether it is an eave end or gable end. The hip roof has all eaves.


                              No point in putting it over the felt; water making it to the felt now seeps beneath. My favorite - nail the drip edge to the sheathing, then ice and water shield all over and onto the drip edge. Then the felt really doesn't matter.

                              When you put the felt over the drip edge, use one of the many fine roofing adhesives rated for felt like Rainbuster 700 to spot glue it ever foot or two. On the gable ends run a thin bead the entire length.

                              In your picture above the flashing on the sidewall should go OVER the roof SHINGLES (I miss-typed this as felt due to Sunday beers ) . Again, to keep the water on the correct side.
                              Last edited by lakeside53; 06-10-2019, 12:19 AM.

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