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  • #61
    Originally posted by strokersix View Post
    I don't understand why we don't just build diesels. This blending of the two does not make sense to me.
    We tried that. Remember when they made a diesil cadillac or chevy.

    Hell no. O I want my small block chevy.

    I dont drive muck. My new car that is 5 years old has about 5700 miles. Yes, fifty seven hundred miles.

    I dont drive much. JR
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    • #62
      Diesels are dirty.... particulates, unburned fuel, black smoke if poorly adjusted, etc. They often stink, and the stuff they put out is highly carcinogenic.

      They are complex, tend to be heavy (Guiberson notwithstanding), and expensive.

      Fixing all that reduces the efficiency advantage they currently have by a chunk. And diesel has consistently been more expensive by volume than gas....more so than the mileage advantage.
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      If you look closely at a digital signal, you find out it is really analog......

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      • #63
        I will never "knock" a diesel for a passenger car, iv owned two silly wabbits that both achieved close to 50mpg dependably and did everything they were designed to do, my only regret is i did not get a turbo diesel Jetta - had the hots for one at the time but never got around to it cuz I entered the honda "CRX era" but that was fun and economical also... (way more fun than the wabbit's)

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        • #64
          Originally posted by J Tiers View Post
          Diesels are dirty.... particulates, unburned fuel, black smoke if poorly adjusted, etc. They often stink, and the stuff they put out is highly carcinogenic.

          .

          yet just like a good barBQ if someone is generous enough to roll a little coal my way I just crank down the window and take it all in, I like the smell of diesel always have,,, pre-combustion or after,,, hate the smell of gas both burnt and un-burnt...

          side note and many moons ago, there was a local coal mining operation that used to use the only IC engine vehicles that were allowed into the mine - in fact I rebuilt many of engine for them - and they were not gassers,,, they were chop top wabbit diesel pick-ups to carry gear back and forth,,,

          for what it's worth they were the only vehicles that passed the "internal coal mining emissions" considered safe enough to breath the air...
          Last edited by A.K. Boomer; 06-16-2019, 11:58 PM.

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          • #65
            Diesel engines are the predominate choice of underground mining equipment power plants for a number of reasons that make sense to those that make money in such ventures. There is now a large assortment of industry approved diesel engines available. The list here of of diesel engines approved by Natural Resources Canada pretty much parallels that of the US and a number of other countries that share common safety goals that pertain to a large number of multinational companies.

            I think the major issue with the use of gasoline engines in this safety critical application is due to the fuel itself being more dangerous in it's raw form and the fact that diesel engines emit drastically lower levels of carbon monoxide, thus reducing ventilation requirements. It's all about dollars and cents boys and girls, as usual.

            Maybe I'm not using the right search criteria but try as i may I could not find a list of gasoline engines approved for underground mine use applications whether they be gassy or non-gassy mines.
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            • #66
              Diesel spills are not a big problem in enclosed spaces. Gasoline evaporates, and the vapor in air is actively explosive. Bad in a mine.
              1601 2137 5683 1002 1437

              Keep eye on ball.
              Hashim Khan

              If you look closely at a digital signal, you find out it is really analog......

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              • #67
                Originally posted by strokersix View Post

                I don't understand why we don't just build diesels. This blending of the two does not make sense to me.
                Diesels have been extremely popular in Europe but now there is heavy decline on numbers. Latest emission standards are hard to fulfill and WV(+everyone else) software scams was the final nail in the coffin.
                Over 50% of sold passenger cars were diesels in here 10 years ago and diesels were even more popular in many other European countries than here in Finland.
                Last edited by MattiJ; 06-17-2019, 08:31 AM.
                Location: Helsinki, Finland, Europe

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by A.K. Boomer View Post
                  I cannot speak for every system out there as there's allot of variations but know that most if not all have abandoned it,

                  keep a closer eye on your air filter as you are pumping allot more CFM through it if your engine is "plateless"
                  Yes,thank you. I have already changed the air filter and the cabin filter. They both looked pretty clean,we don't smoke or drive on dirt roads.It sure seems that the engine air filter and the catalytic converters would be doing extra work with a wide open throttle. Edwin Dirnbeck

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