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  • Does anyone have a Hardinge Copycat Lathe?

    Like the Victor?

    I’m not sure how many different brands there
    are but I was wondering how they ran
    compared to the Hardinge?

    The prices of worn out Hardinge Lathes seem
    to be steady around 5000.00 so I’m wondering
    what a great Alternative might be if I decide
    to go that route.

    I did see an older model HLV-H with the
    hand crank speed adjustment for 1650.00 in
    the Indiana Auto and RV but it sold to the
    first person that looked at it, I was a week
    late on that deal unfortunately.

    Any thoughts? Thanks

  • #2
    I knew about Feeler but I also discovered
    Sharp made a lathe similar to the HLV-H.

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    • #3
      You will find it difficult to locate a lathe of any make that will perform like those made by Hardinge over 50 years ago.
      There are various reasons why no large machine tool manufacturer produces small "manual" lathes.

      Small and medium sized shops rarely use manual machines today, no market there.

      Companies that do purchase small manual lathes do so for in house maintenance shops, this equipment if often the lowest priced Asian made tool possible.

      This leaves the home hobbyist with little choice, a $50000.00 Haas Tool room lathe or a 60 year old clapped out Hardinge HLV for $50000.00, choose wisely.

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      • #4
        Both the Feeler and Sharp copies are very high quality machines. I had a Feeler one for a few years, used Hardinge and Sharp ones in the toolroom at places I worked as a tool & die maker.
        Kansas City area

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        • #5
          The auction that I got the 10EE from would of had a Hardinge but another shop at FSU wanted it. I got a tour of the FSU machine shop attached to their physics lab and was in absolute awe at the manual machines they had.

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          • #6
            I have a Victor branded clone at home.
            I’ve run the real McCoy too. I have absolutely no complaints about my clone in comparison to the Hardinge.
            I absolutely stole it nor what I payed and how it was tooled out.
            I absolutely love to single point on it. Btw, it also has the metric box on it.
            Look at Babbin machine on the east coast. They rebuild hardinge lathes as well as offering clones of varying accessories, including CNC threading setups.

            Sid

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            • #7
              Babbin Machine Tool imports an HLV-H-like model (from where?)

              http://www.babinmachine.com/index.php?TML5CEN

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              • #8
                I was just looking at their machines, They are
                VERY Nice no doubt.

                I inquired about a basic rebuild to a Hardinge
                since I didn’t see that on their website.

                They sell their Babin model starting around
                26,500 it says. Hell, I’ve seen Hardinge lathes
                listed for 23,000 that say Excellent condition
                but don’t look anywhere near as good.

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                • #9
                  My friend Dennis has a HLVH clone. I have never ran the real one but this one is sweet, he likes it. He has some at his shop, so knows how the real thing works. I have a few hours on the clone, and was amazed by it. This one has the inverter drive. I think it's a Sharp. Don't quote me on that. The builders tag isn't very visible.


                  I wonder if the infamous Al Babin from eBay has any connection to the Babin mentioned in previous posts?
                  I cut it off twice; it's still too short
                  Oregon, USA

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tim Clarke View Post
                    ....<SNIP>......
                    I wonder if the infamous Al Babin from eBay has any connection to the Babin mentioned in previous posts?
                    There is no connection between the two. Unfortunate for Babin Machine that Al Babin shares the same name.

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                    • #11
                      I wonder how much it costs to have a Bridgeport rebuilt by Babin? Probably more than a new import.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Toolguy View Post
                        Both the Feeler and Sharp copies are very high quality machines. I had a Feeler one for a few years, used Hardinge and Sharp ones in the toolroom at places I worked as a tool & die maker.
                        +1.
                        Very very very high quality.
                        Check out Tony's Lathes.co.uk website.

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                        • #13
                          Babin charged 10K to rebuild one of the B'ports at my school. Came back looking and performing better than a new one. And I've used new ones.

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                          • #14
                            I have a Feeler HLV clone. Very high quality.
                            My friend is a 30+ year machinist, ran a Hardinge lathe for years. He came over and ran my lathe one night and laughed, the electric motor that runs the carriage and cross feed squeals a bit at full speed, he mentioned almost every Hardinge lathe he's ran does the same thing... They copied it so well.

                            I practically stole my lathe. It's 440 3phase which I think scared off potential buyers. I run it off a 220 rotary and a transformer.

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                            • #15
                              My buddy on Grand Island bought a Feeler HLV-H clone
                              that came from the Fisher-Price toy lab in East Aroura.
                              Still had factory cosmoline on it. He loves it.

                              I have a real HLV-H and also a Tsugami chucker,
                              which is a Hardinge HC copy. I must say I like it
                              better than a Hardinge HC. Even though I have the
                              HLV-H, I just can't sell the Tsugami chucker.
                              The roundy-round turret is a pain to set up, but I
                              found a combination of tools that works pretty well,
                              including a drill chuck on the turret.

                              -Doozer
                              DZER

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