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  • Need advice re new lathe purchase

    I soon will be buying a new 12 x 36 lathe.

    My choices are the Grizzly G4003 which many of you have and this lathe

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814819546

    Are they essentially the same lathe? Is there another choice for about the same money?


    The Birmingham lathe on Ebay actually comes from a company based in Columbus Ohio and I am about 30mins from them. I see some savings on shipping there.

    Also the company in Columbus has a decent price on a Bison 6jaw chuch which I will be purchasing also. I figure maybe get a deal since I am spending some serious money. Nice thing about internet though is no sales tax.

    Any helpfull suggestions?

    Thank you all, I enjoy reading all your posts and learning new things.


    Rob

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    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3848192037

    This is the 6 jaw chuck

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    • #3
      Its come up before

      http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/For...ML/001797.html

      Look to be made from the same basic pattern. I would want to know if they are made in the same facility
      Forty plus years and I still have ten toes, ten fingers and both eyes. I must be doing something right.

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      • #4
        ty Spin!

        That thread didnt do much though. Does anybody know of any quality issues with the Birmingham???

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        • #5

          I would not buy your 12x36" Lathe from Grizzly.

          Just say "No to Grizzly".

          -3Ph

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          • #6
            and why is that??

            Any lathe you particularly like for a 12 x36? (for about the same money)

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            • #7
              <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cuemaker:
              and why is that??

              Any lathe you particularly like for a 12 x36? (for about the same money)
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              Because of the Grizzly customer dis-service. If you have a problem, and need something replaced -- don't be surprised if Grizzly wants you to send back the entire Lathe at your expense instead of just sending you a small 10 oz part.

              The Birmingham looks great and if you can get one locally then I think your choice should be an easy one.

              -3Ph

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              • #8
                There are several lathes that are the same machine, but badged differently. I do not know about Grizzly vs. Birmingham, but it is quite possible.

                Compare all specs, dimensions, speeds, threads and feeds, and if they are the same, they are probably the same machine.

                Quality can vary between greatly between machines even from the same manufacturer, so it is an advantage to be able to inspect a machine before purchase. Low price import machines can be a crap shoot, and after purchase service can make a difference in the deal you get. how long has the Birmingham dealer been in business and what kind of reputation does he have. Ask for customers. Grizzly will put in touch with purchasers in the area if requested.

                Grizzly does have a good reputation for service, but working with a local dealer has benefits too. If you are in Ohio, buying from an Ohio dealer,or pick up the machine in person, you will probably still have to pay sales tax.
                Jim H.

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                • #9
                  <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JCHannum:
                  There are several lathes that are the same machine, but badged differently. I do not know about Grizzly vs. Birmingham, but it is quite possible.

                  Compare all specs, dimensions, speeds, threads and feeds, and if they are the same, they are probably the same machine.

                  Quality can vary between greatly between machines even from the same manufacturer, so it is an advantage to be able to inspect a machine before purchase. Low price import machines can be a crap shoot, and after purchase service can make a difference in the deal you get. how long has the Birmingham dealer been in business and what kind of reputation does he have. Ask for customers. Grizzly will put in touch with purchasers in the area if requested.

                  Grizzly does have a good reputation for service, but working with a local dealer has benefits too. If you are in Ohio, buying from an Ohio dealer,or pick up the machine in person, you will probably still have to pay sales tax.
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                  Yes, you could ask Grizzly to speak with one of their selected customers, or you could listen to one of their non-selected customers like myself

                  -3Ph


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                  • #10
                    well crap. Called the dealer and he wasnt so stonge on product knowledge. I asked if I needed some help with the purchase would he be able to help and he said not really, he isnt much of a machinist.

                    So now Ive got to compare price with shipping cost and the items that come with the lathe. The birmingham does come with a floorstand which is nice.

                    I am very handy with wood, would building a wood bench be a silly concept do you think?? To much chance for vibration?

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                    • #11
                      <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cuemaker:
                      well crap. Called the dealer and he wasnt so stonge on product knowledge. I asked if I needed some help with the purchase would he be able to help and he said not really, he isnt much of a machinist.

                      So now Ive got to compare price with shipping cost and the items that come with the lathe. The birmingham does come with a floorstand which is nice.

                      I am very handy with wood, would building a wood bench be a silly concept do you think?? To much chance for vibration?
                      </font>

                      Hey, at least the dealer was honest upfront.

                      As long as you don't use pool cue's for table legs, you should be fine

                      -3Ph

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                      • #12
                        The grizzly does come with a quick change tool post and a 4 piece insert toolholder set.

                        Is the quick change any good? Are the centers and tail chuck any good? I was told by a friend that the centers and the tail chuck where junk. But if they are servicable..........

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                        • #13
                          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cuemaker:
                          The grizzly does come with a quick change tool post and a 4 piece insert toolholder set.

                          Is the quick change any good? Are the centers and tail chuck any good? I was told by a friend that the centers and the tail chuck where junk. But if they are servicable..........
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                          The Grizzly comes with lots of extra junk. Look at the G4003 closely and you'll notice it probably comes with more extra junk than any other Lathe they sell. The extra junk is there to help compensate for the Lathe itself. The higher end models don't come with extra junk.

                          -3Ph

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                          • #14
                            3PH, Grizzly does have a good rep for customer service. Recently a contributer to the BBS had a part custom fabricated and shipped to him because the mill drill he purchased had conflicting dimensions in their literature. This indicates they are willing to go the extra mile.

                            It would be interesting to hear an account of your experience.

                            Jim H.

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                            • #15

                              I was going to list all the problems I've had with Grizzly customer service (Relative to other vendors) but then I realized it doesn't matter because all I care about is not giving them any more of my business.

                              -3Ph


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