Advise on barrel contouring

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  • rogee07
    Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 81

    Advise on barrel contouring

    The side forces generated by the cutting tool, when contouring a barrel blank, can be reduced by the shape of the cutting tool and the angle the tool is presented to the work. What would be the optimum cutting tool shape, and cutting angle? I have tapper contoured a number of short barrels with no problems. However, I'm wanting to tapper a 26" barrel blank, to a light weight sporter configuration, and am a little concerned about about barrel flex during the process. Any advice would be appreciated.
  • Ringo
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2018
    • 1836

    #2
    buy it from a good barrel maker.
    if you gonna buy a blank, they will contour it for something like $40.
    not worth your time to fiddle with it

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    • rogee07
      Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 81

      #3
      That's good advise, I could sell off the lathes and milling machine and just pick my nose in my old age!

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      • rws
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2003
        • 1429

        #4
        My understanding the lathes have a tracing capability but also hydraulic follow rest that maintain a constant pressure to oppose the cutting tool. A straight taper is one thing, a sporter contour is another animal, and smaller.

        I have bought 1.250 blanks and turned them down to suit my weight needs, but I do it in steps, like the old Mausers. I have also used the compound 3" at a time to turn a taper, never again.

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        • Tim The Grim
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2005
          • 584

          #5
          Adjustable tension, spring loaded, dual bearing follower rest with high durometer urethane shells on the bearing ODs. Wire brush wipers to keep chips from building up on the wheels.
          I saw this in a drive shaft, custom axle shop turning bar stock into products. Worked great. No hydraulics and no rocket science. They made it themselves.
          Illigitimi non Carborundum ?
          9X49 Birmingham Mill, Reid Model 2C Grinder, 13x40 ENCO GH Lathe, 6X18 Craftsman lathe, Sherline CNC mill, Eastwood TIG200 AC/DC and lots of stuff from 30+ years in the trade and 15.5 in refinery unit operations. Now retired. El Paso, TX

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          • rogee07
            Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 81

            #6
            I am thinking in terms of a straight tapper. The barrel would be first reduced to 1" in diameter, from the original diameter of 1.250" with a .812 barrel shank and starting the tapper about 1" ahead of the action down to about .600" or less at the muzzle. This might require a step at the 1" tapper starting point, so as to end up with pleasing looking tapper.

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            • Bob La Londe
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 3988

              #7
              Sounds like a good reason to make a taper attachment, and maybe some custom guide bars for a pneumatic assisted cross slide. That should keep you from picking your nose for a while. I make no claims about tearing your hair out or rending of fabric. .
              --
              Bob La Londe
              Professional Hack, Hobbyist, Wannabe, Shade Tree, Button Pushing, Not a "Real" machinist​
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              I always wanted a welding stinger that looked like the north end of a south bound chicken. Often my welds look like somebody pointed the wrong end of a chicken at the joint and squeezed until something came out. Might as well look the part.

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              • gzig5
                Senior Member
                • May 2005
                • 1232

                #8
                How about just offsetting the tail stock? That method has been used for decades to turn a straight taper. You can use a boring head adapted to the tail stock to have a somewhat repeatable setting. If the offset is big enough you may want to use a ball on the support instead of a pointed center. You'll need some sort of traveling support that is self adjusting.

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