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  • torker
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    Well this one is going to be fun. I checked for the nests in the dark last nite. they are up inbetween the sides of the trailer where I couldn't spray. Might have to risk the tiger torch yet.

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  • gearedloco
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    Don't try this at home...or anywhere!

    Originally posted by torker
    Hola! I need time to get some stuff together.... and still getting good ideas from here.
    Today is crazy.. got a welding job in a few hours ago. Still haven't touched it. There's three hornet nests in and around the old trailer the guy drug in for me to do some work on. He got the crap stung out of himself here. I ran out of hi pressure wasp spray so I'm waiting til the missus brings home some more.
    I'd fry the little buggers out with the Tiger torch but this trailer is full of diesel fuel and other assorted flammables.
    Yeah - had a little shed in the back of the lot where I did some tinkering. Bunch of wasps came in one day and decided to take over. Didn't have any real bug spray on hand so I tried WD-40 . Man, did that ever piss 'em off! I don't know how I beat 'em to the cement pond, but I did.
    Last edited by gearedloco; 07-22-2008, 01:21 AM.

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  • torker
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    Originally posted by Carld

    ROFLMAO, if you heat a piece up with a welding tip and when it's all good and red then turn more oxy to the flame it will cut the piece like a cutting torch. That is, if your a smooth operator.
    Carl.. LOL! another one I've never heard of..it makes sense tho.
    It's still about 100* in my shop.. aint doing any gas welding tonite..
    Hot spell is supposed to be over in a day or two.

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  • Carld
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    torker, I'm with you on O/A to TIG. Untill I got my TIG I didn't realize how much they have in common. Stick and MIG are in many ways the same.

    ROFLMAO, if you heat a piece up with a welding tip and when it's all good and red then turn more oxy to the flame it will cut the piece like a cutting torch. That is, if your a smooth operator.

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  • rohart
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    If George would set up a welding forum, there could be a few stickies, say one each for O/A, MIG, TIG, Which method, and other methods.

    Welding-wise, I hope to be a real noob. I've got limited shop size and funds, not to mention nosey neighbours, and I'd like to do some welding, but the list of things I want to do seem to suggest I need to start on all the techniques at once. Like small aluminium for bike cases, 1/4 inch steel plate and angle for frames, cast iron for fixing broken tailstock castings, brazing for bike and other frames etc.

    So starting off with a good description of what each type of kit and technique will do would be really helpful. And the basic science/engineering reasons why one piece of kit can't/won't do two jobs. Where must I keep bottles ? Are rods called the same thing in the UK as in the states ? Where is it safe to weld ? Ventilation requirements etc.

    Strength to your elbow torker. The whole project sounds brilliant. Am looking forward to it.

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  • torker
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    Hola! I need time to get some stuff together.... and still getting good ideas from here.
    Today is crazy.. got a welding job in a few hours ago. Still haven't touched it. There's three hornet nests in and around the old trailer the guy drug in for me to do some work on. He got the crap stung out of himself here. I ran out of hi pressure wasp spray so I'm waiting til the missus brings home some more.
    I'd fry the little buggers out with the Tiger torch but this trailer is full of diesel fuel and other assorted flammables.
    That and playing the "waiting games" all day trying to pick up my equipment. Geez.. the things you gotta do when you break yer gurl!

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  • small.planes
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    The welding with a cutting torch, and in the spirit of homeshopping, reminded me of a dodge Ive used a few times, cutting with a welding torch. Its not very neat, but if you turn up the oxy to a very oxidising flame you can cut thin sheet quite sucessfully which does save you some time when your wedged under a car and that little bracket is in the way....

    Dave

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  • lazlo
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    Originally posted by Evan
    Well, the offer still stands to make it into some web pages and put it on line Russ.
    My offer still stands to host it, if Evan will WebMaster it -- I've got a Gigabyte of web server space and 60 GB of bandwidth parked on a web site that's currently unused...

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  • Evan
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    Well, the offer still stands to make it into some web pages and put it on line Russ. But, you better have it pretty well formatted the way you want because I'm not going to take any of the blame for the content.

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  • lazlo
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    Originally posted by gellfex
    Maybe you should go in order of ease of entry, starting with the cheapest. Tig would be last, no?
    TIG's also the hardest, by far. In my multi-process welding class we did oxy first, then stick, then MIG (which is the easiest, by far) and then TIG. I'm told that's pretty standard.

    But I understand where Russ is coming from -- puddle management and tempo on TIG is very similar to Oxy, you just don't have a foot pedal to modulate the heat of the torch.

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  • gellfex
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    Originally posted by Your Old Dog
    I don't think I like this idea.

    What the hell can I use for an excuse for my news photographer type welds if I'm supposed to know how to do it?

    Torker I got oxy/acet, mig and AC/DC stick welder. Start with one of them as TIG ain't on my radar anytime soon !!
    second that! I've got MIG & AC/DC. Maybe you should go in order of ease of entry, starting with the cheapest. Tig would be last, no?

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  • torker
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    Originally posted by rdesign
    One possible way to lay this out is one example at a time. IE show a welding job; "repair to a broken wyx stuck half way up pritchet canyon trail", etc.. the welding process chosen, why, procedure, some settings and photos of the area before, during prep, and after. If you try to cover all things you have a text book, if the examples are situational a home shop welder can find a similar situation and give it a try. Many of us have textbooks, how about real examples later organized somehow to search by process or base metals or working conditions? The entry about cutting cast iron while feeding a little 6013 filler is a perfect example of one entry. knock off the flux? does the filler go at the leading edge of the cut? a little elaboration and a title on the entry and you have it. Kind of like the book "machine shop trade secrets" but for welding.
    Ya..that's kind of the stuff I was thinking. BTW.. I just use RG45 or you could use coathangers....lol!

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  • rdesign
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    One possible way to lay this out is one example at a time. IE show a welding job; "repair to a broken wyx stuck half way up pritchet canyon trail", etc.. the welding process chosen, why, procedure, some settings and photos of the area before, during prep, and after. If you try to cover all things you have a text book, if the examples are situational a home shop welder can find a similar situation and give it a try. Many of us have textbooks, how about real examples later organized somehow to search by process or base metals or working conditions? The entry about cutting cast iron while feeding a little 6013 filler is a perfect example of one entry. knock off the flux? does the filler go at the leading edge of the cut? a little elaboration and a title on the entry and you have it. Kind of like the book "machine shop trade secrets" but for welding.

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  • torker
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    Originally posted by NickH
    So take it as ideas then
    I already did!

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  • NickH
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    Originally posted by torker
    Nick..where did I say "weld pool" anywhere on this thread??? I re-read all my posts and don't see it.(That one torch weld WAS a weld pool tho)
    And I didn't realize you where from the UK(your spelling of oxidising and carburising) (My spelling would be oxidizing and carburizing)
    I agree with the video...so you gonna lend me you equipment?
    What's the "point"?
    This is a "Homeshop" welding deal. Trying to think outside the box here... some of the things a homeshop guy would try.
    How many times have you read about guys welding with a cutting torch? I have... in fact I've done it a few times in emergency situations. However.. I've never taken the time to test the results.
    The "too large" of a tip... Why not? This is a very real homeshop or otherwise reality. Gotta weld on Sunday...no welding supply open...
    And you should read the thread...right now I'm compiling any ideas and things I'm doing to get an idea where this will go.
    I threw in the pics to break up the boredom...this is NOT how I would start out the real thread...if you read it you would see I've already said so.
    Now please...where did I say "weld pool" in this thread...
    Russ
    So take it as ideas then

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