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  • HSS
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    Sino

    Just got off the phone with Kerry @ Smithy. He hasn't been able to get arc function to work yet either. He said he would try it again
    Patrick

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  • smiller6912
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    Originally posted by HSS
    Smiller,
    Have you used the arc function ............
    No I haven't. I have a turning project that I have been working on and I haven't even looked at the milling functions yet. I don't have the manual with me here toady but, I will be home later this afternoon and I would be happy to see if I could help you (NO promises). I have found the tech folks at Smithy to be very helpful, you may want to try giving them a call also.
    If you want, send me a pm or email with specific questions and I'll see if I can help.

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  • HSS
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    Smiller,
    Have you used the arc function on your sino dro yet, and if so, how? The manual is a joke.
    Thanx
    Patrick

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  • smiller6912
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    Good folks

    OK, I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you own a Smithy and have any questions or need some help, just call Kerry. I've been tuning up my G1324 and every time I call or email he has been right there with what I need. He is very knowledgeable about the products, and goes out of his way to make sure that I get everything I need.
    This is the way tech help should be done.
    Great job Kerry.........................

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  • smiller6912
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    HSS,
    I find that interesting, I had negligible installation problems. I had to shorten the screw on the front of the Y scale mount (8mm) where it was extending through and hitting the table and I was missing 2 M6 screws for the mounting of the Y read head, and I had to tap 2 holes for the X scale (as indicated in the installation instructions), but everything else was very straight forward and simple. I got the impression that he preferred the Sino for the added capabilities and better resolution. The exchange rate between the US and Canada verses China made the Sino less expensive.
    Anyway, I'm happy with mine. I've only had it two days and I'm still just playing and learning but I already see how this is going to save me a butt-load of time.

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  • HSS
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    Smiller, have you used the bolt circle feature yet? I have mine set up for inches and in bolt circle it wants the dia. in mm. Haven't figured that one out yet so when I get to there I just use mm. Maybe that is their way of getting me to go over to metric.

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  • HSS
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    I think I'm going to reroute my cables. They are ok the way they are, but I don't like the way it looks. I also have to be careful or at least aware of how far around, I push the milling head to get out of the way when turning on the lathe.

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  • HSS
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    You are right about Kerry, Smiller, but I think he prefers the DRO from Canada over the Sino. Kinda makes me think I might have liked the one from Canada, also. The reason I went with the Sino was that Kerry said the Sino was somewhat easier to install. Having installed the Sino and the things I had to do to install it, I wish I had gotten the Canadian one. It couldn't have presented any more installation shortcomings than the Sino.

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  • smiller6912
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    I don't know what version you guys have but, I have two, the one that came with the DRO and the Word copy and, in looking them over, they are not exactly the same (the one that I got on line does not include the Smithy version 3MS) but they are about the same. I don't think there would be much different in the copy you have. I will still be glad to email you a copy of the one I have but I'm pretty sure there is no big differences.
    I was mostly offering the copy just to give someone a look at the capabilities, it is still impossible to read.
    I was talking to Smithy this week and they told me that they have hired a consultant to do an update to the manual but, it is a way off yet.
    I didn't have a lot of problems understanding most of the instructions with a little trial and error and where I did have problems, the folks at Smithy have been very helpful.
    Never hesitate to call them, I've found them to be great people to deal with.
    My hat is off to Kerry, he is always right there with the info I need and he seams happy to do it.
    Last edited by smiller6912; 02-16-2008, 10:39 AM.

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  • torchroadster
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    Originally posted by HSS
    Even tho you use a DRO, don't get rid of your mics or calipers, I have found errors in accuracy with the DRO. Even so the speed of getting to tolerance is better, just check it with instruments before you unchuck.
    I understand that the DRO isn't a replacement for measuring tools - but about the SINO accuracy are you seeing something more than the stated accuracy? I think it's 0.0002? Or are the errors just related to variation in the machine or zero setting tolerances?

    smiller; Thank you for the generous offer of the manual. I've found the one online but like HSS said if your's is something different then I'm very interested.
    Last edited by torchroadster; 02-16-2008, 08:23 AM.

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  • HSS
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    Originally posted by torchroadster
    Glad to read the reports - sounds like everyone is reasonably happy. One question - does the Sino have functions for the both lathe and mill operation? Or just one? One thing that has been holding me back (other than $) on a DRO purchase for my Granite 1340 is that all of the commercial units seem to have functions for either a mill or lathe but not both. Since the Smithy is really both it'd be nice to have both supported in the DRO - I'd always figured I would get the mill version on others and make do on the lathe.
    The Sino will work in lathe or mill, equally well. I mounted my pendant on the wall to the right end and behind the machine. Easy to see and reach and no vibration from the machine. Even tho you use a DRO, don't get rid of your mics or calipers, I have found errors in accuracy with the DRO. Even so the speed of getting to tolerance is better, just check it with instruments before you unchuck.

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  • HSS
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    Originally posted by smiller6912
    This unit is programed specifically for the 3 in 1 machines. It uses the "3MS" display head. If you are interested, I have a (MS-Word) copy of the manual that I would be happy to share. It might help give you a better idea of the functions. -WARNING- You will need to speak Chinglish.
    Is your MS-Word copy of the manual the same translation as the one in the manual? I have the manual and they leave out steps that are required to get the results you want. Also their translation of a flow chart is "a circulation schematic diagram". I think they translate straight from a chinese-english dictionary. If your copy is easier to understand, I sure would like a copy.

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  • smiller6912
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    Originally posted by torchroadster
    Glad to read the reports - sounds like everyone is reasonably happy. One question - does the Sino have functions for the both lathe and mill operation? Or just one? One thing that has been holding me back (other than $) on a DRO purchase for my Granite 1340 is that all of the commercial units seem to have functions for either a mill or lathe but not both. Since the Smithy is really both it'd be nice to have both supported in the DRO - I'd always figured I would get the mill version on others and make do on the lathe.
    This unit is programed specifically for the 3 in 1 machines. It uses the "3MS" display head. If you are interested, I have a (MS-Word) copy of the manual that I would be happy to share. It might help give you a better idea of the functions. -WARNING- You will need to speak Chinglish.
    Last edited by smiller6912; 02-15-2008, 03:18 PM.

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  • torchroadster
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    Glad to read the reports - sounds like everyone is reasonably happy. One question - does the Sino have functions for the both lathe and mill operation? Or just one? One thing that has been holding me back (other than $) on a DRO purchase for my Granite 1340 is that all of the commercial units seem to have functions for either a mill or lathe but not both. Since the Smithy is really both it'd be nice to have both supported in the DRO - I'd always figured I would get the mill version on others and make do on the lathe.

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  • HSS
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    I installed the Sino DRO on my 1324 2 weeks ago and am very pleased with it. The manual leaves a lot to be desired. (it is horrible, actually). The DRO isn't hard to figure out, but it would be wise to write down what you did to get it to do what you wanted, for future use. I have been using the bolt circle feature a lot making a disk for a dividing head. I agree with others in prior posts that .00000 is way too much accuracy.

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